AMI CUSTOMS Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Okay now this is just each amp being gain match to their source running thru my TPI 440, so no load connected, so each amp could make more or less then the other depending on electrical and final impedance. So having said that, here is the results AC output with a 40 hz sine wave/tone. Sundown 3500 v2 - 65 VAC clean, 75 VAC Squarewave Crescendo 3500 - 65 VAC clean, 70 VAC Squarewave So they both did same output thru the scope clean, but the sundown had a 5 VAC more output with what I call a "Soft" clip. 65 VAC was MAX output clean off each amp, each was starting to get a clipped signal at 66 VAC. I really thought the Sundown would make more AC voltage clean, that is what surprised me, but they were exact same. TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisted1 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Sundown 100% won this battle. Ami hurry up an post What makes you so sure of that? What's your reasoning?I really don't know. Being I have 2 Nendo 3500's, I'm In to find out. Does it fuckin matter? No not really... yes I just used a double negative. Ive had both those amps come threw my truck in past couple years. No I dont have amp dyno but I have dmm an math. 09 mustang gt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 What a lame outcome.......I wanted to see some butthurtedness Kenwood Excelon x396AQ2200Fi Q 12XS D3400 XS XP30001/0 RADAFLEXStinger volt meter Mechman 240a alt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikitaaa Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Sundown 100% won this battle. Ami hurry up an post What makes you so sure of that? What's your reasoning?I really don't know. Being I have 2 Nendo 3500's, I'm In to find out. Does it fuckin matter? No not really... yes I just used a double negative. Ive had both those amps come threw my truck in past couple years. No I dont have amp dyno but I have dmm an math.DMM and math won't tell you squat. 2007 M/T Honda Civic Coupe EX (4) Sundown Audio X-8's (2) Ampere Audio 3800.1's (3) Stinger SPV-44 Batteries (1) Mechman 240 3:1 Ratio 4th order sealed from the trunkTEAM NWSPLBest termlab scores to date in Honda trunk:151.7db legal (official) IASCA trunk 3 classBest termlab scores to date in my walled Subie:152.9db legal (unofficial) IASCA advanced 2 class155db outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amart88 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Sundown 100% won this battle. Ami hurry up an post What makes you so sure of that? What's your reasoning?I really don't know. Being I have 2 Nendo 3500's, I'm In to find out. Does it fuckin matter? No not really... yes I just used a double negative. Ive had both those amps come threw my truck in past couple years. No I dont have amp dyno but I have dmm an math. My 2005 s10 blazer build. 4 zcon 18's walled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 I also know what a Soundqubed 3500 does clean, but those amps do a little more power anyway so not really fair here TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 any idea what the 2200 does clean? Kenwood Excelon x396AQ2200Fi Q 12XS D3400 XS XP30001/0 RADAFLEXStinger volt meter Mechman 240a alt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 any idea what the 2200 does clean? I have set a few but can't remember off the top of my head honestly, I have one, just sitting in the box tho. lol TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega5002 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 So, sounds like the sundown is a tad bit better for burps when using soft clip, but for music or daily, crescendo is a better deal price wise. Both are great amps though. 2003 Kia Sorento Team Subsonic LowsTeam Bassin' on a Budget2016 Rebuild Under Construction Best score: 150.2 at 40hz (3k, 2 Custom HDC3 15's) Usaci style(door open, in the kick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 I want to see tests with a load on them, not just open circuit voltage ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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