chvse_esvhc Posted December 15, 2013 Report Posted December 15, 2013 Quick question to all... So, I've got an SAZ-3500 on 2 Zv4 15's in my TC. I dream of the day when I can jump up to 5K or NS-1, but sadly I can't even make things work properly w/ my 3500.. Or so I think? I need some input on how you guys feel about the electrical system I have, and the results and experiences that I'm having with it. Here are the upgrades: DC Power 270XP HOA. XS Power D3400 under the hood. (2) XS Power D3100's in the rear. Big 3 upgrade. Audio Technix 1/0 gauge wiring. (1 run). I've got this whole thing, head unit and amplifier alike, tuned w/ the DD-1. When I get up to 70%, to 100% volume w/ this thing, I start to experience a decent voltage drop. I'll start to dip down to the 12's.. sometimes even low 12's if I play full tilt for more than 30 seconds... I really can't sit idle and crank this thing for more than a minute without being screwed. Does this seem accurate? Does it make sense that this would be the type of drops and power depletion that I should be experiencing? Thanks!
Guest Posted December 15, 2013 Report Posted December 15, 2013 clipping will drop your voltage. which db track did you use for the dd-1? 0, -5, -10?
n8ball2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Posted December 15, 2013 Key word is at idle. THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger.
RooTxBeeR Posted December 15, 2013 Report Posted December 15, 2013 Yeah, at idle your alternator is putting out little to no output because it isn't spinning fast. That set up looks pretty decent to say the least. I would say 1-2 more batteries and possibly a quality cap to level out the voltage drops. I would also suggest, when you go to a 5k or NS-1, look into the possibility of a bigger alt, and definetely doubling up your power and ground wires too. On 11/20/2012 at 8:54 PM, AMI CUSTOMS said: Turned mine up today at a light, guy next to me his steering wheel started moving and he looked over at me like I was a magician lol. On 5/9/2012 at 8:45 PM, skittlesRgood said: fuck the plating. look at what the main metal used is. you could buy unicorn blood plated terminals but if its just covering up dog shit, whats the point On 4/10/2013 at 12:26 PM, mrd6 said: I'll admit, half way through sanding that fiberglass in the rain and cold while I was all itchy I was definitely starting to question why i was doing this haha Soon To Be '04 Ford Escape US Alternator 280A Hairpin D4800 Under the Hood (6) XP3000's in Rear 1/0 SHCA & XS Power 4 runs to back TORK2 kit from Tony @ CE Auto Supply Pioneer DEH-80PRS DD AW6.5 (2) per door *Tweeter Unkown* DD SS4a & C3d (2) SCV4000 @ .5Ohm (2) 15" Sundown Zv5
oldsoundguy Posted December 15, 2013 Report Posted December 15, 2013 double post 80prs Arc Audio Xdi 1200.6 (using active crossovers) Freaking awesome amplifier Incriminator IA 10.1 Focal PS 130v 5.25 (doors) 4" Faital pro Neo (kick panels) 3" Faital pro Neo and focal tweets( dash) DC Audio level 3 12" custom box designed by joex built by me AGM front, XS 750SE batteries rear DC 180 alt 99 Toyota Tacoma extra cab http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179476-my-small-build-turned-into-the-ongoing-build/
oldsoundguy Posted December 15, 2013 Report Posted December 15, 2013 clipping will drop your voltage. which db track did you use for the dd-1? 0, -5, -10? I have noticed this with my system. I was doing some testing with it. I noticed that if I play clean ( no clipping light on the gain knob) then voltage drop is minimal. If I send it into clipping the voltage can drop into the 12s easy. 80prs Arc Audio Xdi 1200.6 (using active crossovers) Freaking awesome amplifier Incriminator IA 10.1 Focal PS 130v 5.25 (doors) 4" Faital pro Neo (kick panels) 3" Faital pro Neo and focal tweets( dash) DC Audio level 3 12" custom box designed by joex built by me AGM front, XS 750SE batteries rear DC 180 alt 99 Toyota Tacoma extra cab http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179476-my-small-build-turned-into-the-ongoing-build/
Guest Posted December 15, 2013 Report Posted December 15, 2013 Yeah, at idle your alternator is putting out little to no output because it isn't spinning fast. That set up looks pretty decent to say the least. I would say 1-2 more batteries and possibly a quality cap to level out the voltage drops. I would also suggest, when you go to a 5k or NS-1, look into the possibility of a bigger alt, and definetely doubling up your power and ground wires too. bro he has a dc 270xp lol. 200 amps at idle.
chvse_esvhc Posted December 15, 2013 Author Report Posted December 15, 2013 I wish I could answer the DD-1 track question. I had somebody else do it for me... the only thing I can really say about that process is that the tracks were uploaded onto an iPod and tested through that. The CD was MIA. Also, I'm really thinking my head unit is the weakest link in all of this... the pre-out voltage is supposedly 4V, but where the gain ended up being set on the 3,500 according to the DD-1... I'm thinking it falsified that. Definitely the next investment as well as more wire to do another run. I wonder if I'm clipping... I'd like to think not. Especially since the Z's never change temperature whatsoever. Ambient temperature if not cooler. The XP series is designed for brute force idle output.. which helps.
Guest Posted December 15, 2013 Report Posted December 15, 2013 I wish I could answer the DD-1 track question. I had somebody else do it for me... the only thing I can really say about that process is that the tracks were uploaded onto an iPod and tested through that. The CD was MIA. Also, I'm really thinking my head unit is the weakest link in all of this... the pre-out voltage is supposedly 4V, but where the gain ended up being set on the 3,500 according to the DD-1... I'm thinking it falsified that. Definitely the next investment as well as more wire to do another run. I wonder if I'm clipping... I'd like to think not. Especially since the Z's never change temperature whatsoever. Ambient temperature if not cooler. The XP series is designed for brute force idle output.. which helps. ipod via aux 3.5mm cable can clip at full volume. my ipod video was fine at 99% volume. but 100% clipped a bit. if its through usb then thats fine. ask the man that tuned it for you. ask if he used 0, -5, or -10db. -5 is recommended. -10 is too much.
n8ball2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Posted December 15, 2013 And how often do you charge your batts THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.