Broke_Audio_Addict Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm not confused at all, you are confusing a fusible link with a fuse. That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Also you can believe what you want about what fuses are for but they are for more than protecting the wire. That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meade916 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Also you can believe what you want about what fuses are for but they are for more than protecting the wire. what else are they (the main battery fuse) for protecting? the amplifier? the headlights? the dome lights? windshield wipers? the main fuse ONLY protects the wire (and obviously the car). Period. If you have an amp, it will usually have it's own fuse. Your headlights have their own fuse. The wipers have their own fuse...all inside of a fuse box that is connected to one larger fuse....the main battery fuse or fusible link. Everything connected to that wire is responsible for it's own fusing and protection but the MAIN fuse on the MAIN positive wire is only for protecting that wire and a wire fire. Same thing for when we hook up our own fancy aftermarket 1/0 wire. That 300a ANL fuse isn't doing shit to protect your favorite amp, sorry to tell you. Nor is it protecting your wipers or the headlights. It is protecting the car from a fire if you get a catastrophic short though. All SMD products + MORE available at my store here! https://wccaraudio.com/ Subscribe to My Youtube Channel! Over 1,000,000 subscribers strong! Turn on your notifications! http://www.youtube.com/meade916 Follow My Instagram! Daily live feeds from the shop, exclusive content way before it hits my Youtube channel...and little squares with photo's in them http://www.instagram.com/meade916 The Official SMD Facebook fan Page https://www.facebook.com/SteveMeadeDesigns/ Follow my Tweet (Twitter) http://www.Twitter.com/meade916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm not just talking about the main fuse and people around here tell others all the time even their amp runs the fuse is just to protect the wire which is false. I'm well aware that there is multiple fuses in the vehicle I'm not a moron. If you're throwing a 300 or 350amp fuse on your 1/0 because that's it's current carrying capability and you aren't actually drawing that much current you're right you aren't protecting anything but if you fused appropriately yes you are. That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 You better go look at some factory wires and stare at the fusible link. You also aren't fusing just to protect the wire I absolutely hate that statement especially when people are suggesting someone should fuse to their wires current carrying capability when their actual current demand is much less. I think you are confusing fuses Seriously though, there is no reason to fuse an alternator. Oem manufacturers fuse any Wire that could short on battery side only. You are probably looking at another fuse. If they fused the alternator they would have to fuse at or above alternator rating. I've never seen a 150 a fuse in a car fuse box. Also the rule is to fuse at or below the current capability of wire. Depends on what you need to run through it. It's mainly for he wire because people who put wires in hat will short one day didn't design or plan it out well. A wire should never short. That's just bad install. So why wouldn't you want to fuse it? if the winding in the alt burnt up and grounded out, wouldn't that connect the alt charge lead going to the front batt to the ground? just a thoughtWe were talking about batteries in back. If you had battery in front yes you'd want a fuse right at battery from run to alt. But even so if you can't run a wire 4 feet safely across engine bay without having it never short, it's gunna be an install issue. Pretty much fuse every connection out from a battery that's what fuses are for. Constant power source that could melt your wires and cause a hazard Edit: I want to clarify most alternators go to starter or fuse box then are fused within fuse box and battery is connected separately to fuse box. And there is a main bus in then fuse box that is fused to protect all from battery. And each individual circuit is also fused obviously Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhunt94 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 You better go look at some factory wires and stare at the fusible link. You also aren't fusing just to protect the wire I absolutely hate that statement especially when people are suggesting someone should fuse to their wires current carrying capability when their actual current demand is much less. I think you are confusing fuses Seriously though, there is no reason to fuse an alternator. Oem manufacturers fuse any Wire that could short on battery side only. You are probably looking at another fuse. If they fused the alternator they would have to fuse at or above alternator rating. I've never seen a 150 a fuse in a car fuse box. Also the rule is to fuse at or below the current capability of wire. Depends on what you need to run through it. It's mainly for he wire because people who put wires in hat will short one day didn't design or plan it out well. A wire should never short. That's just bad install. So why wouldn't you want to fuse it? if the winding in the alt burnt up and grounded out, wouldn't that connect the alt charge lead going to the front batt to the ground? just a thought We were talking about batteries in back. If you had battery in front yes you'd want a fuse right at battery from run to alt. But even so if you can't run a wire 4 feet safely across engine bay without having it never short, it's gunna be an install issue. Pretty much fuse every connection out from a battery that's what fuses are for. Constant power source that could melt your wires and cause a hazard ahh I gotcha 2007 Ford F-150 Reg. Cab. Flareside250 Mechman AlternatorSky High Car Audio Big 3 XS Power D3400Rockford Fosgate 1/0 amp kitRockford Fosgate T1500-1bdcpRockford Fosgate T400-4DC Audio Lvl 4 12"Rockford Fosgate Punch 6.5" componentRockford Fosgate Punch 6x8Pioneer AVH-P2300DVDSMD Volt Meter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meade916 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm not just talking about the main fuse and people around here tell others all the time even their amp runs the fuse is just to protect the wire which is false. I'm well aware that there is multiple fuses in the vehicle I'm not a moron. If you're throwing a 300 or 350amp fuse on your 1/0 because that's it's current carrying capability and you aren't actually drawing that much current you're right you aren't protecting anything but if you fused appropriately yes you are. the amp run's fuse IS to protect the wire though. That is why you put it by the battery and not by the amp. If you are throwing a 300 amp ANL fuse on a wire but only drawing 50 amps from it with a small system, YES you are STILL PROTECTING THE WIRE, and the car. How many amps do you think a direct short draws? All SMD products + MORE available at my store here! https://wccaraudio.com/ Subscribe to My Youtube Channel! Over 1,000,000 subscribers strong! Turn on your notifications! http://www.youtube.com/meade916 Follow My Instagram! Daily live feeds from the shop, exclusive content way before it hits my Youtube channel...and little squares with photo's in them http://www.instagram.com/meade916 The Official SMD Facebook fan Page https://www.facebook.com/SteveMeadeDesigns/ Follow my Tweet (Twitter) http://www.Twitter.com/meade916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm not just talking about the main fuse and people around here tell others all the time even their amp runs the fuse is just to protect the wire which is false. I'm well aware that there is multiple fuses in the vehicle I'm not a moron. If you're throwing a 300 or 350amp fuse on your 1/0 because that's it's current carrying capability and you aren't actually drawing that much current you're right you aren't protecting anything but if you fused appropriately yes you are. the amp run's fuse IS to protect the wire though. That is why you put it by the battery and not by the amp. If you are throwing a 300 amp ANL fuse on a wire but only drawing 50 amps from it with a small system, YES you are STILL PROTECTING THE WIRE, and the car. How many amps do you think a direct short draws? More than the fuse Steve Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 So if it's just to protect the wire on the amp run why does the amp manufacturer recommend a fuse size? Explain why amps for years and some still do had fuses built into them? You know the right people to ask so have them come explain how a fuse only protects the wire. That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhunt94 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm not just talking about the main fuse and people around here tell others all the time even their amp runs the fuse is just to protect the wire which is false. I'm well aware that there is multiple fuses in the vehicle I'm not a moron. If you're throwing a 300 or 350amp fuse on your 1/0 because that's it's current carrying capability and you aren't actually drawing that much current you're right you aren't protecting anything but if you fused appropriately yes you are. the amp run's fuse IS to protect the wire though. That is why you put it by the battery and not by the amp. If you are throwing a 300 amp ANL fuse on a wire but only drawing 50 amps from it with a small system, YES you are STILL PROTECTING THE WIRE, and the car. How many amps do you think a direct short draws? but wouldn't you also want to fuse to protect the amp? If an amplifier normally draws ~50 amps and something goes wrong one day and it starts pulling ~90 amps and you have a 300a fuse on the wire to protect the wire, then it's not going to blow. The amp could sit there and be drawing too much current until it smokes and the fuse wouldn't blow. 2007 Ford F-150 Reg. Cab. Flareside250 Mechman AlternatorSky High Car Audio Big 3 XS Power D3400Rockford Fosgate 1/0 amp kitRockford Fosgate T1500-1bdcpRockford Fosgate T400-4DC Audio Lvl 4 12"Rockford Fosgate Punch 6.5" componentRockford Fosgate Punch 6x8Pioneer AVH-P2300DVDSMD Volt Meter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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