Sundown Sa 15's

[boom50cal]

Overpowering mainly will benefit a competitor if every other thing has been optimized and there's no other way to gain output. To most daily setups it's just more risk than what it's worth IMO.

It does not always have a benefit and can actually cause the system to perform worse.

example being matt14's Tahoe with his 4th order. did a 147.9 or so on a nendo 3k. DC 5k and it did like a 147.3 iirc.

Too much power leads to excess heat. heat kills efficiency.

[Hertz_So_Good]

Here is a link the the thread on the ssa forums http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/topic/63492-in-search-of-new-sub-please-help/page-10.. all box/port measurements are on there, along with photos. I'm not sure what to think about the box now.. They initially were saying that the tuning was wayy off, and there there was wayy too much port velocity/port noise. They have gone back and forth, and now the last few posts have said the box isnt as bad as they thought.. I would try to post the key points of the conversations from there to here, but it would probably be easiest if you all just wanted to go there and read though it..

Thanks
~Tyler

[Joe X]

Overpowering mainly will benefit a competitor if every other thing has been optimized and there's no other way to gain output. To most daily setups it's just more risk than what it's worth IMO.

It does not always have a benefit and can actually cause the system to perform worse.

One would hope that a half seroius competitor have taken steps to avoid or reduce issues like picking the right subs for the job.

[ToNasty]

Overpowering mainly will benefit a competitor if every other thing has been optimized and there's no other way to gain output. To most daily setups it's just more risk than what it's worth IMO.

It does not always have a benefit and can actually cause the system to perform worse.

example being matt14's Tahoe with his 4th order. did a 147.9 or so on a nendo 3k. DC 5k and it did like a 147.3 iirc.

Too much power leads to excess heat. heat kills efficiency.

But to the ear it sounds louder

[Joe X]

Here is a link the the thread on the ssa forums http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/topic/63492-in-search-of-new-sub-please-help/page-10.. all box/port measurements are on there, along with photos. I'm not sure what to think about the box now.. They initially were saying that the tuning was wayy off, and there there was wayy too much port velocity/port noise. They have gone back and forth, and now the last few posts have said the box isnt as bad as they thought.. I would try to post the key points of the conversations from there to here, but it would probably be easiest if you all just wanted to go there and read though it..

Thanks

~Tyler

You state the port is 7 1/4" x 7 1/4", that is is 49.5 square inches of port area for two 15" drivers, it doesn't take more than a visit to Sundown's site and check their suggestions, you will find that they give about 100 square inches of port area for the dual sub version, so why would they do that if only half was needed?

[Hertz_So_Good]

I never saw that, and I really appreciate you bringing that to my attention. That makes a lot of sense and helps a ton!

[Hertz_So_Good]

Hey Joe, Where at on the site did you find that info? Having problems finding it

[Joe X]

Here:

http://www.sundownaudio.com/index.php/products/subwoofers/item/sa-series.html

Go to the enclosure spec and cutsheet tab and click o the link of the box you want, download the file and you will need sketchup software to open it.

I would go the the store that sold you the box and show them that.

[Hertz_So_Good]

Ok, but one thing. That link is for the (X) and not the (SA) model

[Joe X]

Sorry fixed.