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It looks like the sub will work in about 2.25-2.5 cubes net for both chambers in a 4th order BP so that you know. So may people want to try them these days without even knowing why, if you are curious I would recommend trying the sub in both 4th BP and ported, not that complicated project but some rectangular boxes and see what you like best.

4.5-5 cubes for 1 10? How'd you come up with those numbers? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told for a 4th order you use something close to the manufacture's recommended airspace for the sealed section then decide on a ratio and that will determine your ported section. With that math for that sub the whole enclosure could be under 3 cubes, or am I way off?

4.5-5 cubes? Where did you get that lol.

Wait did you mean 2.25-2.5 cubes total? I read that as 2.25-2.5 per chamber lol

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Wait did you mean 2.25-2.5 cubes total? I read that as 2.25-2.5 per chamber lol

Yes, only adding the net volume of both chambers just to see if it you have hope to fit or not.

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....Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told for a 4th order you use something close to the manufacture's recommended airspace for the sealed section then decide on a ratio and that will determine your ported section....

Yeah, that's one way you could design a bandpass box, you can also use a crescent wrench as a hammer, but in both cases don't be surprised if it doesn't work out real well.

I think this who idea of using any kind of "ratio" for bandpass design is just a shortcut for people who really don't have any business designing a bandpass box in the first place. There is a whole lot more that goes into it than just picking a ratio and going from there.

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Wait did you mean 2.25-2.5 cubes total? I read that as 2.25-2.5 per chamber lol

Yes, only adding the net volume of both chambers just to see if it you have hope to fit or not.

Ahh, sorry for that derp moment.

....Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told for a 4th order you use something close to the manufacture's recommended airspace for the sealed section then decide on a ratio and that will determine your ported section....

Yeah, that's one way you could design a bandpass box, you can also use a crescent wrench as a hammer, but in both cases don't be surprised if it doesn't work out real well.

I think this who idea of using any kind of "ratio" for bandpass design is just a shortcut for people who really don't have any business designing a bandpass box in the first place. There is a whole lot more that goes into it than just picking a ratio and going from there.

I don't wanna threadjack, but I'd love to learn how to properly design bandpass enclosures. If you could link me to some good reading material on the subject I'd love it.

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RF T10001bd
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Sundown X18 in 7cubes net tuned to 32hz

Trust me .25 Blows your Load.

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....Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told for a 4th order you use something close to the manufacture's recommended airspace for the sealed section then decide on a ratio and that will determine your ported section....

Yeah, that's one way you could design a bandpass box, you can also use a crescent wrench as a hammer, but in both cases don't be surprised if it doesn't work out real well.

I think this who idea of using any kind of "ratio" for bandpass design is just a shortcut for people who really don't have any business designing a bandpass box in the first place. There is a whole lot more that goes into it than just picking a ratio and going from there.

I don't wanna threadjack, but I'd love to learn how to properly design bandpass enclosures. If you could link me to some good reading material on the subject I'd love it.
Download WinISD pro and play with it.. that's what I did (plus a little research) I felt the best way to understand a 4th order is to see how they react compared to other boxes.. you can play with box size and tuning frequency..

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Thanks.

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RF T10001bd
Silver Flute 6.5"s
Tang Band 1" Tweeters
Sundown X18 in 7cubes net tuned to 32hz

Trust me .25 Blows your Load.

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^Research EBP. Efficiency bandwidth product. Its really easy to calculate if you have TS parameters for your speakers.

High EBP = good for sealed /4th order bandpass

Low EBP = good for ported/ 6th orders

Of course there are always exceptions and then subs with EBP more in the middle will perform okay in either design

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