superduper Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Which one would you prefer to run the fi's with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI James Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 DD over AB for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofanaticz Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 If your buying the amp new, I say DD. American bass has a undisclosed flaw about their amps.. If you let them sit at a idle or turn your sub preamps off or have volume on zero your amp will get hot sometimes kicking protect or just going up in smoke. Only amps Ive ran so far that ever done this. Being that they are Zenon built I believe, I wonder if sundowns have this same flaw which is also zenon built?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI James Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 bope no problem with sundowns doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofanaticz Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 nice to know james. That just proves that companies that have rebadged amps are only simular in design but run different/better parts. Vote NO to american bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS15 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 lol i run a vfl and it has NEVER once EVER even got warm, 3k rms+ way under rated ab is on top with the VFL's all awesome daily amps and i think he defiantly had a problem in his car lol Quote 1 15" LMS Ultra<-Sold 2 12" Audiopulse Axis Quad Coils 2 18" RD Audio Alpha V2's<--For Sale or Trade American Bass VFL 700.1 (alot of power at any ohm) American Bass VFL 200.1 (3.8k rms @ .5 ohm) 2.1 cubes each at 32 Hz 125 sq ft RAAMaudio BXT, 5 Yards Ensolite 50ft 1/0 Knu Flex wire 4 Infinity 6.5" Temp 170x2@2 ohm Sony amp 200 Amp EA Alt 3 Exide Orbital's Youtube Vids....http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gavinriley&view=videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmoorman05 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 lol i run a vfl and it has NEVER once EVER even got warm, 3k rms+ way under ratedab is on top with the VFL's all awesome daily amps and i think he defiantly had a problem in his car lol x2 im runnin ab and never heats up on me and i pound daily Quote JVC AVX-2 Audiocontrol EQX (2) 12" Audiopulse Revo Planed Audio P2250 D @ .5 ohm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superduper Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 so there are both rated at about the same...right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) If your buying the amp new, I say DD.American bass has a undisclosed flaw about their amps.. If you let them sit at a idle or turn your sub preamps off or have volume on zero your amp will get hot sometimes kicking protect or just going up in smoke. Only amps Ive ran so far that ever done this. Being that they are Zenon built I believe, I wonder if sundowns have this same flaw which is also zenon built?? All Class D amps get hot in the output section when they idle. I was amazed at how hot a Sundown SAZ-3000D got on my test bench considering it didn't even have a load connected. My VFL400.1's idle fine. There were a couple of flaws with a certain generation of Zenon amps but I'm pretty sure they have them ironed out now. All that said, DD. Although the DD is also Zenon AFAIK, haha. Pretty damn sure they use nearly identical output sections. EDIT: Yup, both have 16 IRFP360LC's in the output section and use the same driver board so you can be pretty sure power output will be very similar. Z1a uses 6 small power supplies whereas 500.1 uses 4 larger ones, so the Z1a is probably a little more efficient at Street voltages and the VFL will like higher voltages better. Edited January 18, 2009 by Boon Quote 10.x volts fo' life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI James Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 DD are chum lun (sp) amps not zenon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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