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Its actually from the MTX website.

Their "definitive" power war conclusion crap.

I dunno what it proves other than yes you can throw more juice at a 9500.

Whooppee freakin doo.

I don't really care how much power a sub can take, in fact I prefer a mid-power level sub over some crazy power hungry woofer.

If it "CAN HANDLE" that much, the suspension has gotta be pretty damn stiff, thus you will NEED a shitload of power to even get it moving a decent amount.

For you guys w/ the tahoes/vans/excursions and truck based SUV's, thats all well and great but you will have to shell mucho $$ to buy enough amps to run them as well.

I'd personally rather find some medium power subs that will have a higher sensitivity to power so they will GET MOVING off less than 1000watts rms and I can run a few of em w/ out having to mount 3 alternators under hood (not happenin in my Integra anytime soon).

Not having mentioned SQ...how's the sq on them MTX's? personally, the only setups I've heard at comps that were using them (9500's) sounded terrible.

I do know MoneyMan (Jon I think) w/ the Bagged BMW was running them (4-12's poking thru the rear deck) and his was supposedly a SUPER SQ setup (may very well be) but I have never heard it and the only time I saw him compete w/ it was at a CMI show at Sac raceway and My car was louder on the mic. He said he was still trying to fig out the tuning then so it may have gotten louder since.

Point is, power isn't everything, and OF COURSE their product will shine when they do the "testing" comparisons.

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Its actually from the MTX website.

Their "definitive" power war conclusion crap.

I dunno what it proves other than yes you can throw more juice at a 9500.

Whooppee freakin doo.

I don't really care how much power a sub can take, in fact I prefer a mid-power level sub over some crazy power hungry woofer.

If it "CAN HANDLE" that much, the suspension has gotta be pretty damn stiff, thus you will NEED a shitload of power to even get it moving a decent amount.

For you guys w/ the tahoes/vans/excursions and truck based SUV's, thats all well and great but you will have to shell mucho $$ to buy enough amps to run them as well.

I'd personally rather find some medium power subs that will have a higher sensitivity to power so they will GET MOVING off less than 1000watts rms and I can run a few of em w/ out having to mount 3 alternators under hood (not happenin in my Integra anytime soon).

Not having mentioned SQ...how's the sq on them MTX's? personally, the only setups I've heard at comps that were using them (9500's) sounded terrible.

I do know MoneyMan (Jon I think) w/ the Bagged BMW was running them (4-12's poking thru the rear deck) and his was supposedly a SUPER SQ setup (may very well be) but I have never heard it and the only time I saw him compete w/ it was at a CMI show at Sac raceway and My car was louder on the mic. He said he was still trying to fig out the tuning then so it may have gotten louder since.

Point is, power isn't everything, and OF COURSE their product will shine when they do the "testing" comparisons.

never heard of that

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Sure its taking 142 volts, hooked up to a power supply putting out a regulated amperage. Ive seen btl's go up in smoke after 100 volts at 50 amps. They are ok subs dont get me wrong, But you arent going to buy a $450 woofer to connect it to your house wall socket. There is no way to tell the watts rms the sub was taking without a complete set of stats and variables that seem to be absent from the MTX sponsored video.

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lol yet another MTX vid that makes me laugh, first the hole head to head thing of theirs, that is a joke, and now this one? MTX ALWAYS has these claims, but here is the thing, they never tell you the whole story. When they did the head to head crap with the 8500 vs L7 they only used 500 watts rms to each sub and claimed kicker lied about the excursion of the L7. Now with that in mind anyone who knows anything about kicker, they know that the L7 doesn't even start to wake up with 500 watts. Don't let companys test of other woofers fool you, in this case the L7 was setup to fail before it even started, and MTX isn't the only one guily of this. Personally I don't believe a single thing about tests unless I know the person or I did it myself!

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... MTX isn't the only one guily of this. Personally I don't believe a single thing about tests unless I know the person or I did it myself!

Amen brotha.

Marketing guys get paid BANK for a reason.

Smoke & mirrors my friend...They sit down w/ an R&D/tech guy and figure out what test will make thier woofer "SMOKE THE COMPETITION"...And they "happen to be rolling video".

Even "CLAIMS"...these days it's hard to even trust T/S specs as most folks/companies use w/e version makes them look best like putting xmech as xmax.

Gotta "copy" & go with what the LOUD guys use, or just experiment urself.

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