Dd9512 Vs Pap 12"moab

[AI James]

http://forum.soundpressure.com/showthread....ghlight=recones

http://forum.soundpressure.com/showthread....ghlight=recones

http://forum.soundpressure.com/showthread....ghlight=recones

and on & On

http://forum.soundpressure.com/search.php?...chquery=recones

if there so Great why all the Re-cones ???

lemme see tons of people run paps stuff and we'll start seeing their failures

[Boon]

As mentioned above, big motor but who cares ;/ Who says it even makes shit all motor force, or that the majority of the field is even centred on the gap...

Looks like a beast but your comparison is meaningless.

(Is it just me or does nobody really give a shite? lol)

[Lord Baccus]

it just seems to me there are allways guys that ride the DD BandWaggon or Fi or anything else with a Cute Logo.

i prefer something that sounds Good and will Burp without Frying, PAP stands behind me and has NEVER let me down !

i have 1 18" MOAB with 2x Sundown Audio SAZ 3000d amps ( Daily ) & need 2 more to power the sub to it's full output...

i dont think i can do that with a Generic-DD sub...

and i think yall attacking SQ is in Bad taste.

if you have to resort to personal attacks / Sign of a WEAK MIND

[AI James]

i mean five us some specs to work with. after our last coversation where you made the comment about large excurion and spl in the same sentence. i kinda laugh at these threads

[Lord Baccus]

you want the Specs for my MOAB ???

Fs = 32 Hz

Qms = 7.7

Vas = 3.13 cu.ft

Xmax = 1.5 in

Xmech = 1.5 in

P-Dia = 15.5 in

Sd = 188.7 sq.in

P-Vd = 0.164 cu.ft

Qes = 0.39

Re = 2 ohms

Le = 2 mH

Z = 2.4 ohms

Pe = 6000 watts

Qts = 0.37

1-W SPL = 90.7 dB

2.83-V SPL = 96.72 dB

[BJD3]

it just seems to me there are allways guys that ride the DD BandWaggon or Fi or anything else with a Cute Logo.

i prefer something that sounds Good and will Burp without Frying, PAP stands behind me and has NEVER let me down !

i have 1 18" MOAB with 2x Sundown Audio SAZ 3000d amps ( Daily ) & need 2 more to power the sub to it's full output...

i dont think i can do that with a Generic-DD sub...

and i think yall attacking SQ is in Bad taste.

if you have to resort to personal attacks / Sign of a WEAK MIND

Why is wanting to be loud and sound good doing it "in Bad taste"?

[Lord Baccus]

Why is wanting to be loud and sound good doing it "in Bad taste"?

i mean yall picking on StereoQueen...

when you have to resort to personal attacks / seems to make your arguement less impressive

try debating the Facts...

the New MOAB has a re-Designed Solid Pole Piece... Higher Bl...

http://pierceaudioproducts.com/forum/index...opic,698.0.html

[korey_hofer]

hahaha there is no way that sub will take 12grand daily

are you gonna run each amp at 8ohms

you know that is exactly like the sub he oemed for some one else just a bigger scale

I'm not impressed really lets see it up against a tsns or a cactus sounds driver. You know some 4" coiled subs. any one can make it look like the better driver when compared to a lower class driver. and I know the omega's gap is so big my Aq has more bl so I am thinking the DD is probably still pretty damn close in motor strength

[Lord Baccus]

my 1 of a kind MOAB

http://pierceaudioproducts.com/forum/index...opic,606.0.html

we had to reuse the Motor after UPS CRUSHED the Basket on the 1st sub design

but it all worked out as we used the High Arch surrond the 2nd time around.

http://pierceaudioproducts.com/forum/index...pic,606.15.html

[tommyk90]

The OP's attempt to make the DD look inferior is failing miserably.

Please go back to PAP's forum where you belong.