DGold Posted July 4, 2009 Report Posted July 4, 2009 On my amp it has a subsonic filter from 20-50. If this is on do i still need the low pass n high pass or does the subsonic do that for me? Also, my gain has no numbers on it jus min and max so the only way i can set it accurately is an oscilloscope right? I had someone else tune my amp because i then knew nothing, now the amp is running at a lower ohms so was wondering how much to adjust it, even though its powering my subs half of what their rated to handle anyway. Any input on this? Quote Old Setup 03 DurangoRF Power T1 6.5 CompsMids/Highs Amp: AQ4x90Sub Amp: AQ 3500.1DSubs: 2 DC XL 18sBox: 12ft^3 tuned to 33HzMechman 270 Amp AltXS 6500XS 3100 x2 Highest Score to date: 151.2 db @ Headrest
spl4life Posted July 4, 2009 Report Posted July 4, 2009 kinda need more info... whats ur box tuned at? what subs and amps u using? whats the RMS rating for ur sub and amp? i would say, as long as ur not clipping it.. you should be fine.. also if ur only puttin in half the RMS... u can turn up the gain... but like i said... jus make sure ur not clipping it... Quote My first truck... My first Real build... *Update 8/9/10 DC Power 270xp Alt is In!!!* 1997 Toyota T-100 DC Level 5 18" in a T-line Everybody wants their system to be.... 1. Cheap 2. Reliable 3. Loud ...you can only pick two. micahmye hertz pack
Neel Posted July 4, 2009 Report Posted July 4, 2009 Say your sub has no sub sonic filter or low pass, it would be receiving signals from 1hz - 20khz. Signals that are way to low for the sub to play making the sub bottom out (in certain situations,mainly if your getting loud and not too worried about those low notes needed in SQ applications) , and frequencies that are too high that also make it work harder then it should and also sound terrible. So the idea is, the subsonic filter will stop the lower frequencies from playing, on your amp you can change this anywhere from 20-50hz. The low pass is to keep all the higher frequencies out (in most cases people set them around 80hz) so the idea is the sub only plays frequencies from 80hz down to whatever you set your subsonic at (in your case anywhere from 20-50hz. The gain should be set to match the maximum unclipped voltage output of your source and then left alone, you can then change the level of the sub using a bass knob or your source unit. The idea is that you dont want the amp to send out a clipped signal (looks like a sine wave with the tops and bottoms "clipped" off) to your speakers / subs. Set it once correctly , you can use a voltage meter instead of an oscilloscope if you dont have access to one, from my experience using the voltage chart and the oscilloscope are usually pretty similar in terms of voltage output before clipping. Quote Too Much Stuff to list .
SQMonte Posted July 4, 2009 Report Posted July 4, 2009 So the idea is, the subsonic filter will stop the lower frequencies from playing, on your amp you can change this anywhere from 20-50hz. The low pass is to keep all the higher frequencies out (in most cases people set them around 80hz) so the idea is the sub only plays frequencies from 80hz down to whatever you set your subsonic at (in your case anywhere from 20-50hz. The gain should be set to match the maximum unclipped voltage output of your source and then left alone, you can then change the level of the sub using a bass knob or your source unit. The idea is that you dont want the amp to send out a clipped signal (looks like a sine wave with the tops and bottoms "clipped" off) to your speakers / subs. Set it once correctly , you can use a voltage meter instead of an oscilloscope if you dont have access to one, from my experience using the voltage chart and the oscilloscope are usually pretty similar in terms of voltage output before clipping. Well said, I agree 100% Quote Alpine CDA-117...Memphis 16-X03 CDT Audio SQA-4100...SEAS Prestige H1396...Crescendo MP-6 Soundstream Rubicon 1.2500d...Digital Designs 3512f
DGold Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) So even running at lower ohms I do not have to adjust the gain for the new output? My subsonic is just an on/off switch. Its an Audiobahn. Im not happy with it currently but i bought it 3 years ago when i was 16 and didnt kno much. I have it hooked up to 2 Audiobahn subs rated at 400w RMS a piece so this sub is only givin half at the most. Amp, Will be upgrading this soon http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Pr...ProductID=17047 Edited July 4, 2009 by DGold Quote Old Setup 03 DurangoRF Power T1 6.5 CompsMids/Highs Amp: AQ4x90Sub Amp: AQ 3500.1DSubs: 2 DC XL 18sBox: 12ft^3 tuned to 33HzMechman 270 Amp AltXS 6500XS 3100 x2 Highest Score to date: 151.2 db @ Headrest
basshead4life Posted July 6, 2009 Report Posted July 6, 2009 So even running at lower ohms I do not have to adjust the gain for the new output? My subsonic is just an on/off switch. Its an Audiobahn. Im not happy with it currently but i bought it 3 years ago when i was 16 and didnt kno much. I have it hooked up to 2 Audiobahn subs rated at 400w RMS a piece so this sub is only givin half at the most.Amp, Will be upgrading this soon http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Pr...ProductID=17047 thats not going to be an upgrade unless you get 2. because those amps are only 400 rms. and whats the ohms of the subs. Quote Team S.M.D. Maritime Car Audio- (2) 18" SSA ZCON D1 - American Bass 500.1 - 60 ft of 3/0 -480 Ah of battery - (2) stock alternators (70 +90) - Kenwood Excelon x-794, 4v preouts car audio is just a LOT more complicated than "this amp does this power" or "this sub will be this loud". its like 2 + 2 = banana. (if that confuses you then you get the point) lol
DGold Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Had to google to find it, I have 2 of these, Theres an amp thats the same style but puts out 400w rms x2 at 2 ohms. The subs i have were in parallel but I switched em to 1 sub per channel because i noticed a significant volt drop for almost any bass. I'm going to upgrade the entire system most likely not jus the amp. Audiobahn was a good first/cheap system 3 years ago but i think its time to move on once i get the money(college is expensive). http://www.bizrate.com/carsubwoofers/audio...er--pid7579872/ Edited July 6, 2009 by DGold Quote Old Setup 03 DurangoRF Power T1 6.5 CompsMids/Highs Amp: AQ4x90Sub Amp: AQ 3500.1DSubs: 2 DC XL 18sBox: 12ft^3 tuned to 33HzMechman 270 Amp AltXS 6500XS 3100 x2 Highest Score to date: 151.2 db @ Headrest
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