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yeah its getting crazy. look at the stuff steve is building. 30k in a daily driver. granted he is at the far end of the spectrum, but you see more and more running 10k watts in there cars. i mean these were levels that were only for the extreme competitors back in the day. hell i probably still have the magazine that 182.1 db was recorded, with much debate over it. that was in a green astro van. this was 10 yrs ago. now steve and some of his other builds are hitting 160 with a full, well sometimes full, interior. now i dont know what the record is anymore. when i got into this stuff the 15' subs were king, if you wanted to break 150 you had no car left....it was speakers bolted to what use to be some form of a vehicle. no seats, doors bolted shut, bullit proof glass, and as many batteries shoved into the back as you could fit in. amps would get so hot you could fry and egg on the heat sinks. i love what has happened to this industry, its because of the people like steve and so many others on here that we are seeing these advancements. these companies wouldnt be making the products if these systems werent being built.

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yeah its getting crazy. look at the stuff steve is building. 30k in a daily driver. granted he is at the far end of the spectrum, but you see more and more running 10k watts in there cars. i mean these were levels that were only for the extreme competitors back in the day. hell i probably still have the magazine that 182.1 db was recorded, with much debate over it. that was in a green astro van. this was 10 yrs ago. now steve and some of his other builds are hitting 160 with a full, well sometimes full, interior. now i dont know what the record is anymore. when i got into this stuff the 15' subs were king, if you wanted to break 150 you had no car left....it was speakers bolted to what use to be some form of a vehicle. no seats, doors bolted shut, bullit proof glass, and as many batteries shoved into the back as you could fit in. amps would get so hot you could fry and egg on the heat sinks. i love what has happened to this industry, its because of the people like steve and so many others on here that we are seeing these advancements. these companies wouldnt be making the products if these systems werent being built.

The green Astro that your talking about is John Henry's van. It did that number on the Audio Control meter and would only do a 170 or so on the new Term Lab meters of today. The world's loudest is right in the 181 db area and keeps going up and down around that number. No one has officially done a 182 in competition yet but to give you a fair comparrison today's setups would do around a 192 or so on the older Audio Control meters if they could actually read that high.

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man that is insane...yeah when he hit 182 there was a lot of controversy over it cus he had his own plug in port for the mic cable and everyone thought he was messing with the voltage. i can not imagine what the new 181 would even begin to sound like...when did they change the metering systems over?

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man that is insane...yeah when he hit 182 there was a lot of controversy over it cus he had his own plug in port for the mic cable and everyone thought he was messing with the voltage. i can not imagine what the new 181 would even begin to sound like...when did they change the metering systems over?

Hrm not 100% sure when the Termlab became the standard for dB measurement. I think it came about from the microphone based sensors (vs pressure sensors like the TL) becoming seriously inaccurate at high dB... the readings were horribly influenced by airflow across the mic instead of just raw pressure.

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well by comparison...lol when you see 30k watts and 5 seats in a truck vs 30k watts and a van with maybe one seat in it and they are both slam 160+ the only diff being 7yrs ago that van was the only way to break into the 160's, now you and your boys can roll upto taco bell listening to music and breaking that 160 mark...lol i am by no way knocking the systems of the past... im guessing that was your van? what were you running in her?

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yeah i remember they were talking about the mics not being that accurate at high bd's. so how do the new mics actually work then?

They sense the pressure, not volume. I'm unsure of which pressure sensors they use.

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Yep Caps just arent very effective with todays systems, Batteries are the way to go, heck you can even get XS's smallest battery and be more powerful than 100 1 farad caps. Talking about high powered daily drivers soon Beajay is gonna be running 60K daily and 120K burp.

Though like all systems it probably wont be right on that mark given all the variables.

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