Crump Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 Yea yea, I know it varies per car+ set up + all that, BUT I dont have access to a termlab and I only get 1 run for 60 seconds. The last run I did I got a 142.1 @ (the pink floyd bass mixed song's 1st note) hz. I know I can be louder on music because my sub is fully broken in now, but I wanna know what I can burp. Car: 2008 Ford Focus Trunk set up with sub back port back tuned to 33-34 htz 1 12" Fi Bl 09 model w/ cooling + flatwind coil 1 RF T-1500-1bd Optima up front Kinetik 1800 in back My Voltage doesnt drop below 14 as long as I rev my engine to about 1.75k-2k rpm. Any help will be appriciated. Team gg Team doa Installs I have doneMy 2010 Rebuild 144 db so far....2 DC xl 10s Firing into cabin on a RF 25002 12" AQ HD's powered by a Saz 2k + Lots o Mids+Highs
HHR Ed Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 If you go to a competition. Play a sweep in the qualifying round or even ask for a practice round, and then ask the judge what your peak frequency was. Other than that. No one will be able to tell you what frequency or even close to what frequency you will peak at. Ed Lester ShowtimeSPL Host Showtime Electronics Video MarketingMy old Build Loghttp://www.stevemead...08/#entry511451http://www.youtube.com/showtimespl 5 time dB Drag Finalist Last ride 2007 HHR, current dB 153.5 and bass race 149.4 dB. 153.0 dB on music New Ride, 2008 HHR SS. Build under way. Loudest score ever = 171dB 2009 dB Drag Racing, North American Points Champion
Crump Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Posted October 13, 2009 If you go to a competition. Play a sweep in the qualifying round or even ask for a practice round, and then ask the judge what your peak frequency was. Other than that. No one will be able to tell you what frequency or even close to what frequency you will peak at. I know, I asked last time, but where they were metering was weird and I wouldve blocked the traffic flow to park. The last time I played a sweep the guy said I peaked @ 39 hz, which seems too low to me, since then I have changed subs. So, does 39 hz seem reasonable? or too low? Team gg Team doa Installs I have doneMy 2010 Rebuild 144 db so far....2 DC xl 10s Firing into cabin on a RF 25002 12" AQ HD's powered by a Saz 2k + Lots o Mids+Highs
HHR Ed Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 I know, I asked last time, but where they were metering was weird and I wouldve blocked the traffic flow to park. The last time I played a sweep the guy said I peaked @ 39 hz, which seems too low to me, since then I have changed subs. So, does 39 hz seem reasonable? or too low? 39 hz ist too low. Depends on the setup and thats in a good range for daily music systems. The meter doesnt lie. If it said 39hz, its 39hz. Ed Lester ShowtimeSPL Host Showtime Electronics Video MarketingMy old Build Loghttp://www.stevemead...08/#entry511451http://www.youtube.com/showtimespl 5 time dB Drag Finalist Last ride 2007 HHR, current dB 153.5 and bass race 149.4 dB. 153.0 dB on music New Ride, 2008 HHR SS. Build under way. Loudest score ever = 171dB 2009 dB Drag Racing, North American Points Champion
audiofanaticz Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 In most cases, your burp freq is ruffly 4-9hz above tuning freq. So 39hz maybe right. The change in the sub may effect it a little, but nothing major if your still using the same box. The little bit in displacement from "sub a" to "sub b" is maybe 1hz if your lucky.
Crump Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Posted October 13, 2009 39 hz ist too low. Depends on the setup and thats in a good range for daily music systems. The meter doesnt lie. If it said 39hz, its 39hz. k In most cases, your burp freq is ruffly 4-9hz above tuning freq. So 39hz maybe right. The change in the sub may effect it a little, but nothing major if your still using the same box. The little bit in displacement from "sub a" to "sub b" is maybe 1hz if your lucky. Yea I only changed from an 08 model bl, to a 09 model which is heavier which is why i asked. So as of right now I have a cd with 5 tones, 38,39,40,41,42. I know a lot of the real competitors dont use bass knobs, but is using a RF punch knob while playing a tone going to bottem me out? I always use the knob sparingly like 15-20 seconds here and there. This is the only thing I am worried aboutEDIT: 1000 POSTS :D Team gg Team doa Installs I have doneMy 2010 Rebuild 144 db so far....2 DC xl 10s Firing into cabin on a RF 25002 12" AQ HD's powered by a Saz 2k + Lots o Mids+Highs
SPL2K Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 In most cases, your burp freq is ruffly 4-9hz above tuning freq. So 39hz maybe right. No. Resonant frequency (or burp frequency) of a particular car has nothing to do with the tuning frequency of the sub enclosure. It will always stay pretty much within a 2-3hz range regardless of box tuning. 39hz sounds possible but its not going to be a good SPL car. Should sound great with music though. Michael Hughes = 6X SPL World Champion - Loudest on the planet in db Drag, USACi, and IASCA.
Crump Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Posted October 13, 2009 No. Resonant frequency (or burp frequency) of a particular car has nothing to do with the tuning frequency of the sub enclosure. It will always stay pretty much within a 2-3hz range regardless of box tuning. 39hz sounds possible but its not going to be a good SPL car. Should sound great with music though. Yea, I wasnt going for an spl car or anything like that just a good loud daily driver that still sounds good on music. I know my score could be lower with a new box, but I like my lows too much Team gg Team doa Installs I have doneMy 2010 Rebuild 144 db so far....2 DC xl 10s Firing into cabin on a RF 25002 12" AQ HD's powered by a Saz 2k + Lots o Mids+Highs
audiofanaticz Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 No. Resonant frequency (or burp frequency) of a particular car has nothing to do with the tuning frequency of the sub enclosure. It will always stay pretty much within a 2-3hz range regardless of box tuning. 39hz sounds possible but its not going to be a good SPL car. Should sound great with music though. So are you saying he cant burp his daily box? He is asking what freq to burp his car at with his current box.. Or shall we say burp freq of his BOX not his CAR. and last time I checked if your going to burp your car "not some high tuned 60hz fart cannon setup" your db rating will be louder at a freq 4-9hz above your box tuning freq. My tahoe will play up to 47hz from what I noticed, however my box is tuned at 29hz, and my loudest burp due to tuning is 35. If I go buy what you say, I should burp at 31-32 hz which is ruffly .3db quieter. Why would i want to do that?
SPL2K Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 So are you saying he cant burp his daily box? No i didnt say that. I said regardless of what you tune your enclosure to, ts not going to change the natural resonant frequency of your car. Say you car peaks at 51hz. It doesnt matter if you tune your box to 25hz, 33hz, 40hz, or 73hz. 51hz will always be the loudest frequency in that car. (as long as all adjustments on the head unit and amp correspond with that). Michael Hughes = 6X SPL World Champion - Loudest on the planet in db Drag, USACi, and IASCA.
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