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I'm trying to decide on the subs for the next build stage of the Buick. And I'm stuck between the 8500s I have and Fi's BL series 12s.

Quick specs:

MTX T8512-04

Fs: 36.35 Hz

Qms: 3.16

Cms: 0.083 mm/N

Mms: 230.47 g

Rms: 16.66 kg/s

Vas: 1.287 ft³ (36.45 liters)

Xmax: 0.850 in (21.59 mm)

D: 10.500 in (266.70 mm)

Sd: 86.59 in² (558.65 cm²)

Vd: 73.61 in³ (1.21 liters)

Qes: 0.72

Re: 3.21 O

Bl: 15.33 Tm

Prms: 500 Watts (Bullshit will take 750rms easy)

Qts: 0.580

??: 0.234 %

SPLo: 85.90 dB

SPL 2.83V/1m: 89.78 dB

Fi BL 12"

DUAL 1 | DUAL 2

Fs: 35.2 Hz | 39.8 Hz

Re: 0.7 Ohms/coil | 1.4 Ohms/coil

Qms: 4.68 | 4.72

Qes: .25 | .25

Qts: .24 | .24

Mms: 212g | 212g

Cms: 0.96mm/N | 0.96mm/N

Sd: 480cm^2 | 480cm^2

Vas: 31.2 l | 31.2 l

Spl: 89.1dB 1W/1m | 89.1dB 1W/1m

Bl: 16.6 N/A | 22.7 N/A

Xmax: 18mm | 18mm

Rms: 1000W * | 1000W *

Sealed box: N/A cuft | N/A cuft

Ported box: 1.5-2.5cuft | 1.5-2.5cuft

Sub OD: 12.500” | 12.500”

Cut ID: 11.125” | 11.125”

Mounting depth: 6.750” | 6.750”

Displacement: 0.18cuft | 0.18cuft

What do?

The price for the new subs is not an issue

I'm going for SQ more than SPL, but I still want loud.

Suggestions?

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I'm trying to decide on the subs for the next build stage of the Buick. And I'm stuck between the 8500s I have and Fi's BL series 12s.

Quick specs:

MTX T8512-04

Fs: 36.35 Hz

Qms: 3.16

Cms: 0.083 mm/N

Mms: 230.47 g

Rms: 16.66 kg/s

Vas: 1.287 ft³ (36.45 liters)

Xmax: 0.850 in (21.59 mm)

D: 10.500 in (266.70 mm)

Sd: 86.59 in² (558.65 cm²)

Vd: 73.61 in³ (1.21 liters)

Qes: 0.72

Re: 3.21 O

Bl: 15.33 Tm

Prms: 500 Watts (Bullshit will take 750rms easy)

Qts: 0.580

??: 0.234 %

SPLo: 85.90 dB

SPL 2.83V/1m: 89.78 dB

Fi BL 12"

DUAL 1 | DUAL 2

Fs: 35.2 Hz | 39.8 Hz

Re: 0.7 Ohms/coil | 1.4 Ohms/coil

Qms: 4.68 | 4.72

Qes: .25 | .25

Qts: .24 | .24

Mms: 212g | 212g

Cms: 0.96mm/N | 0.96mm/N

Sd: 480cm^2 | 480cm^2

Vas: 31.2 l | 31.2 l

Spl: 89.1dB 1W/1m | 89.1dB 1W/1m

Bl: 16.6 N/A | 22.7 N/A

Xmax: 18mm | 18mm

Rms: 1000W * | 1000W *

Sealed box: N/A cuft | N/A cuft

Ported box: 1.5-2.5cuft | 1.5-2.5cuft

Sub OD: 12.500” | 12.500”

Cut ID: 11.125” | 11.125”

Mounting depth: 6.750” | 6.750”

Displacement: 0.18cuft | 0.18cuft

What do?

The price for the new subs is not an issue

I'm going for SQ more than SPL, but I still want loud.

Suggestions?

Id do an Fi q then. the BL is a more spl sub i have one it still sounds good tho

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Id do an Fi q then. the BL is a more spl sub i have one it still sounds good tho

Yeah, they come out right about when I plan on starting the hardcore stuff on it so that might work.

Any word on the RMS power rating? I want right at 1000. The website doesn't say.

Edit: Wait, the site says Mar012010 but people already have them? lolwhut?

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Seems like they're changing the subs up a bit. The Q, BL and SSD say coming in March.

Pretty sure the Qs were 1000 watt RMS as well, they were just geared more towards SQ than the BL was.

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Seems like they're changing the subs up a bit. The Q, BL and SSD say coming in March.

Pretty sure the Qs were 1000 watt RMS as well, they were just geared more towards SQ than the BL was.

Cool, then than pretty much what I'm going for.

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The only problem is with FI is after you buy the subs and when something happens are they gonna be there with it blows and you need parts, i heard FI was haveing problems getting parts for there subs... Dont hold me to this just heard this from a compeditor friend of mine who uses FI.. Blew his 18 BTL and had to wait almost 6 months for recones.. and when he got them he said it was RE products.. But they were once the same company.. But FI is a hell of a sub just the service isnt so great...

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The only problem is with FI is after you buy the subs and when something happens are they gonna be there with it blows and you need parts, i heard FI was haveing problems getting parts for there subs... Dont hold me to this just heard this from a compeditor friend of mine who uses FI.. Blew his 18 BTL and had to wait almost 6 months for recones.. and when he got them he said it was RE products.. But they were once the same company.. But FI is a hell of a sub just the service isnt so great...

FI now sells recone kits Directly from their website.

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MTx are good stuff, but i would have to do with FI Bl because those sub go get loud and lows. What great about the Fi Bl, it can be recone.. Not sure if that mtx can be recone..

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