nocturnalrites101 Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 ive been hearing threw our local focal rep that rear fill actually does more harm to a higher end set up then helps as it partly destroyed the imagining. any truth to this? If there is im still concerned as i still have all 3 rows of seats in my suburban and i dont want the people in back missing out well im sure some of you have seen my build.... the box actually turned out to have alot of SQ to spite how loud it gets... NONE the less... so with all that said being an employee we get everything at cost plus a demo vehicle price so basically very cheap. with that said im either looking at k2 power krx3s in the front doors and k2 power krx2s in the rear doors... ran off a 4 channel or Utopia Be no.7s in the front doors ran active with no rear fill thoughts?
elastic Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 rearfill will destroy front staging if done incorrect. this is my actual rearfill: what i now need are better front speakers to get the front stage back to front and not sitting in the back. well tuned rearfill sounds very nice in my eyes, its just a question of the settings. my 15 L7 build my youtube channel with lots of L7 videos
finkster Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 I couldn't get rear fill to work right in my car. My rear speakers are directly aimed at the front so if it doesn't sound right you know it. you could hear differences in the speakers between the tweeters and the way the midbass punched and drove me nuts. The real noticeable difference is when you turn your head. Because I have no rear fill when I turn my head I lose sound in one ear, where I would have never lost any sound with rear fill. But that is a very minor negative because my front stage sounds tits IMO. DAT 4125------>RE XXX comps active Eclipse cd7000 I serve drunks for a living
TheSundownFire Posted January 21, 2011 Report Posted January 21, 2011 I dont run rear fill but my car is a hell of a lot smaller than a Suburban. What Ive always been told to do is to turn your head 90 degrees from the listening position and adjust the fade until your ears are no longer attracted to the sound in the rear. 1999 Pontiac Sunfire Alpine CDA-9886 Sundown Audio SAZ-1000D Sundown Audio SAX-50.4 Rainbow SAC 265.25 Components Image Dynamics iD12 Optima Yellow Top SQFire FTW.
1loudhoe Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 I drive a tahoe and I prefer running rear fill. It just sounds better, fuller and much louder. Plus I often have ppl in the back seat and I've sat in the back with just the front playing...wasn't as full sounding and with bass you can't hear music at all in the back with a decent system. Large suv, I feel you need rear fill
Ric Thornton Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 think of it this way... When you go to a concert, where is the stage? where are the speakers? In front of you. rear speakers are fine if you are going for surround sound, but for true imaging back speakers should be turned off. I USED to compete in MECA for SQL. I forgot to turn my back speakers off at one show (when I first got truck and still had stock back speakers hooked up to the radio for rear passengers) and my score dropped 2 points. You know when setting up for sq you want the sub to sound as though its in front of you not behind you (a big problem since in most cars the sub is in the trunk or rear of vehicle) Do a great set of components in the front with plenty of power and you should be fine.
1loudhoe Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 As an audio engineer for a living I know how I want my music to sound and I prefer having rear fill in a large suv. I'm actually about to upgrade my front stage and rear fill to 3 ways
jbondox Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 rear fill... and i love the comments about when you go to a concert... hell every concert I have been to, the sounds is reflecting off of everything, music to the side, music to the back, music to the front... hell i have even seen some orchestras like that... rear fill especially in a suburban... and you can fade it out (fade more to the front) when setting it up, so as not to be taking from the front, and when you have rear passengers in there, you can entertain them by by placing the fader to the middle... It really just boils down to common sense. SMD SuperSeller VerifiedJbondoXJames Shields
finkster Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 rear fill... and i love the comments about when you go to a concert... hell every concert I have been to, the sounds is reflecting off of everything, music to the side, music to the back, music to the front... hell i have even seen some orchestras like that... rear fill especially in a suburban... and you can fade it out (fade more to the front) when setting it up, so as not to be taking from the front, and when you have rear passengers in there, you can entertain them by by placing the fader to the middle... It really just boils down to common sense. I tried my hardest to make rear fill work in my car and i couldn't get it to sound right The speakers just sounded different from each other....well duh they ARE different speakers but I could tell the difference with my ears and it drove me nuts. Like I could tell a difference in the tweeters and midbass. DAT 4125------>RE XXX comps active Eclipse cd7000 I serve drunks for a living
dangerick18 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 I wanted to use my Alpine 6x9's in the back but I might just use those for a homemade boombox instead. I have an Alpine 6.5 component set up front that I ended up bridging with my Alpine F300 amp and it sounds WAYY awesome. Of course I want rear fill but I refuse to underpower the front set til I get another amp, that's for sure! Plus my car is pretty long so the rear deck is pretty far from me. For now, the empty holes in the rear-deck are acting as ports to the cabin for my bass
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