Kranny Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I dont fully understand the concept of the cone area vs watt issue. Ex - Lets say you have 1 15" sub with 1000rms going to it and you have 1 12" sub with 2000rms going to it, which one would be louder? I know the saying that more cone area = more output, but what about if you have big sub w/ little power and small sub w/ big power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsmack Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 are u asking about effencency? output? air moved? what do u want to know? I will say it is ALL SUBJECTIVE IN THE INSTALL "No poor dumb bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He did it by making the other poor dumb bastard for his country." George Patton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot27 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I've heard 2x cone area = 2x power, therefore since the 15" isn't double the cone area, the 12" would be louder. But there are too many variables for a guaranteed ratio of watts to cone area. Current Setup: Factory HU with LOC mids/highs-Insignia components Sub- E8 in bass tube Amp- sae-1200d Show Setup: HU-Sony MEX-1HD (brings massive respect for sony) fronts - Infinity Kappa perfect comps rears- Infinity Kappa coax mid/high amp - Autotek 5600 Subs - 2 RE SE 15's Sub Amps - 2xSAE-1200D Box - 5cubes sealed Wire- Lots of Knu 1/0 SECOND SKIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 what about linear movement..... i.e. XMAX...... 15 moves 5 mm 12 moves 52mm 2008 California state record holder 157.2 Bassrace2009 California state record holder 157.0 BassraceRollin 50's 158.7db2009 King of Cali Bassrace2009 USACi score 160.5 @ 42hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranny Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 im asking about output/loudness. if they're in the same built/type box and same vehicle. so 2 12's, 1000w and 1 12 2000w are the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dylan Dude Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 so 2 12's, 1000w and 1 12 2000w are the same?that's a good question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 im asking about output/loudness. if they're in the same built/type box and same vehicle. so 2 12's, 1000w and 1 12 2000w are the same? not the same. given the same power, the setup with more cone area will typically be louder. 2 12's with 1k watts each will be louder than 1 12 with 2000 watts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot27 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 not the same. given the same power, the setup with more cone area will typically be louder. 2 12's with 1k watts each will be louder than 1 12 with 2000 watts. I think he meant the two twelves sharing the 1000 watts vs. one twelve on 2000 watts. That's just how I took it Current Setup: Factory HU with LOC mids/highs-Insignia components Sub- E8 in bass tube Amp- sae-1200d Show Setup: HU-Sony MEX-1HD (brings massive respect for sony) fronts - Infinity Kappa perfect comps rears- Infinity Kappa coax mid/high amp - Autotek 5600 Subs - 2 RE SE 15's Sub Amps - 2xSAE-1200D Box - 5cubes sealed Wire- Lots of Knu 1/0 SECOND SKIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dylan Dude Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I think he meant the two twelves sharing the 1000 watts vs. one twelve on 2000 watts. That's just how I took itx2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSN2meBoom916 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Re-read POST #4. COOGLE SAID:"bro thats how we got where we are... buy making messes ...... i still learn all the time you just gota be willing to ruck up some shit" "In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd." ~ Miguel de Unamuno"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men, but no machine can do the work of one extraordinary man" -Elbert Hubbard"A proud man can learn humility...but he will be proud of that too" ~I forget who.I'm far from perfect and I know it better than anyone, but I hope to be good at what I do, when I do it...Installs I've done:My Integra: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3161The Lexus : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=1535Law's Maxima: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5568&hl=Jeff's 2500HD: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5382&hl=Acura RSX-S: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3142Z-32 300zx: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=34602004 Civic 4dr: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=8190Trunk/Corner Box: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=16036&hl=1969 Chevy C-10: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=20319&hl=Seat-Back AMP-RACK How-to: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=9428&hl=Bunch of subs still for salehttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...l=lsn2meboom916"It's game night...we're playin......sex."~Quagmire"When disneyland started it was powered completely by orphan children running on treadmills to generate e-lectrissty…and today, them children are New York Yankees". ~Dale Gribble"Fill it with ice...then pour it up to the top of the ice...& Shut da Fu** up!" ~Urs truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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