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Try using Google to find construction or building supply or timber. Seychelles Timber Company‎ Grand Anse Village, Seychelles for example. If that fails, talk to the guy at your hardware store and ask him to get you some MDF, who ever supplies his store should be able to get it. If not that timber company should be able to suggest an alternative that is sourced locally.

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They barely sound at all which is the problem

I wouldn't touch it (unless it was $500). I would rather have a car that was a little beat up with a clear history of maintenance performed on it.

Those other demo's are a riot. Do you have the handle disconnected on purpose?

Should have my stuff in well before then!

Depending on if the shipper has an account it should be nowhere near that. Here are a couple totally random examples using my old account (Detroit to San Jose): 120lbs 45x30x22 FedEx First Overnight® 8:00 AM Mon Apr 26,2010 863.43 FedEx Priority Overnight® 10:30 AM Mon Apr 26,2010 298.84 FedEx Standard Overnight® 3:00 PM Mon Apr 26,2010 289.02 FedEx 2Day® 4:30 PM Tue Apr 27,2010 267.67 FedEx Express Saver® 4:30 PM Wed Apr 28,2010 221.63 100lbs 24x24x24 FedEx First Overnight® 8:00 AM Mon Apr 26,2010 637.62 FedEx Priority Overnight® 10:30 AM Mon Apr 26,2010 196.42 FedEx Standard Overnight® 3:00 PM Mon Apr 26,2010 188.72 FedEx 2Day® 4:30 PM Tue Apr 27,2010 171.97 FedEx Express Saver® 4:30 PM Wed Apr 28,2010 135.87 Greyhound is another option, for the same package (their weight limit is 100lbs) shown directly above it's $85. I never knew about Greyhound shipping until I started getting parts for my 61 DeVille from Phoenix.

The $20 max is nice though, the box I got the other day was 38lbs so $20 wasn't too bad.

Demo vehicles should showcase install skill, then products, and then loudness. I say this because as most of us know you make your money off of selling reasonably priced products and installs. If it were me I would be focusing on ways to showcase how well your stuff is installed and keeping products installed within peoples reach. If you were to go with a wall for example, people can't afford that and don't want it. Sure there are some out there who will go and drop $10,000+, but honestly are those your bread and butter customers (if so stop reading lol)? Most people are looking for good sound while not loosing the functionality of their vehicle. Keep your focus on your core customer and what the vehicle needs to do to get people to buy. If it's all about box/amp combo's, do a sick box (focus on looks over function), if it's all about installs, then you need to focus on ways to show your shops skill by making things that don't matter matter by making them visible (wiring, glass, wood working, etc), and the list goes on... On a related note, if you have tons of customers talking about JL then you should have some information posted around the shop doing comparisons between JL and your products.

16v to the SS's is tossed into the trash. There was far too much confusion on the topic (mainly on my part) and since I've never done it and just doing my first real build in 12 years (give or take) I decided to stick with what I know. 2 300 amp alts and 3 XS 3400's in route with plenty of room for more batts later (when/if I come up with the scratch for 2 more XXX's)

You rock, thanks man.

07 Trailblazer SS I'm pretty sure I have it all sorted out now. I'm going to run a separate 16 volt system, but if I'm wrong please let me know.

So after talking with Nathan and a couple others here (thanks guys) I'm now "sorted out". Isolated 16v system: 3-6 D1600's 1 250 amp alt with brackets and belt(s) 1 VCM Seems like a PITA just to run a couple Soundstream amps... Off to get a quote.

SlappinF150 has offered to help my out of date ass with the build, there will be a log for sure. My stuff from 99 isn't bad, I mean 1700'ish watts to 3 12W6's sealed hits pretty hard (not crazy like this will but still). I was running 4 12's, but I just blew one last night (hopefully just a lead smacking around) so the 3 W6's are going back in later. I actually I need D1600's I guess because the XXX-4000's need 16v. Otherwise they only kick out 3300.

Thanks Nathan!

PM sent, thanks man.

Thanks!

Hey guys, Long story short I plan on running 2 SS 4000's which need 16v to run at 4000 watts. At 14 volts they only put out 3300. I will also be running one or two 4 channels to the interior (700-1200 watts) which only need 14v. I'm way out of touch with this stuff so I'm hoping for some direction. I would assume that the 4 channels should be fine on my stock starter battery (I have a yellow top if things wack out) and factory alt (145amp stock alt) which would be 14v. The two 4000's would need to run on an isolated system which would run at 16v requiring an isolated alternator and batteries. The problem is, how in the hell do I make it 16v? It's the alternator that decides that right? I'm going with Stinger alt/batts and had thought that 2 2150's (rated for 4300 watts each) would be enough for the 2 4000 amps, but would that be cutting it too close? Would I be better off with 4 smaller ones or 3 2150's or? I had shot Stinger a message yesterday for some guidance, but no response yet. I should have started here...

Thanks for the responses guys it got the wheels turning. After going over it 500 times I'm going to go with 2 18 SMDs and 2 XXX 4000 Soundstream amps. The math just works out the best (cubes/cargo space/price/watts) and makes me the most comfortable. The more and more I thought about it, tossing 4 15's in my 07 with 18k miles on it didn't sit too well. I don't want to blow the thing apart (yet)! Now I just have to work out interiors, 4 channel(s), wire, batts, and alt(s).

Hi all (Rob here), I’m pretty new to the forums (wuzzzzahhhh!!!) and to be completely honest my car audio knowledge is beyond dated (the gear in my classic caddy I’ve had since 99 for the most part – 3 12W6s, MMATS amps, JL components, Alpine deck, etc). I’ve got the bug back and now I’m going to do a build, but wanted to tap into the knowledge here before I start buying stuff. I am a little long winded so please hang in there. I have a 07 TBSS lease that I’m going to buy out. I want a complete system (amps, deck, subs, components, alt, batts, etc) so I wanted to get some input from you guys on which way to go as far as subs go. Ideally I would like to have the ability to run daily with the ability to drop down the ohms when the need arises. I don’t plan on spending $10,000 or anything like that, but I do want to do it big (I would go B I G rather than big but I was laid off a couple months ago). I’m honestly blown away by the knowledge shared on these forums and just hope that you guys (and gals) can point me in the right direction because I feel like a fish out of water these days and clueless about what is good and what isn’t these days. Please don’t think of this line of questioning as a waste of time because I’m honestly looking for real help here. I don’t want to waste my money nor do I want to buy “shit”. Without your help I would be forced to revert back to my previous knowledge and aim at brands that I know deep down aren’t what they used to be. The cargo area (run down below) in the TBSS should allow 2-3 18’s (3 is doable but complicated) or 4 15’s. Comfortably would be 2 18’s or 4 15’s firing vertical with a rear port. While more is usually better I’m thinking that 2 18’s will be plenty for the little TBSS. With the space below (both options allow for 7 inches on either side for batteries) and considering the vehicle; what brand subs, size, and configuration would you pick? These figures are just the max cubes if I was to put a rectangular box in with 1" wood (no displacement or anything). Again I don’t really remember how to work out the specs for a box, but I think I’m on the right track. 1)With no rear view obstruction and no changes to the back seats (they continue to lean) along with 7 inches clearance on either side for batteries (with room for up to 12+ batts total or 6 with some side cargo space still available): 33 D x 40 W (wheel well to wheel well with batt room) x 21 H = 12.95 cubes 2)With slight rear obstruction and an angle change to the back seats (they would be vertical and no longer lean) along with 7 inches clearance on either side for batteries (with room for up to 12+ batts total or 6 with some side cargo space still available): 37 D x 40 W (wheel well to wheel well with batt room) x 21 H = 14.62 cubes 3)With significant rear obstruction and an angle change to the back seats (they would be vertical and no longer lean) along with 7 inches clearance on either side for batteries (with room for up to 12+ batts total or 6 with some side cargo space still available): 37 D x 40 W (wheel well to wheel well with batt room) x 24 H = 16.93 cubes Going with options 2 or 3 opens the doors as far as 18’s go as to where option 1 limits me a bit as I need subs that require smaller cubes (Soundstream, SMD, etc). On the one hand I spend more money on higher end subs, but I still have room for the amps in the cargo area or I save some money on subs and have to murder my back seat (not out of the question) by cutting out some foam and building a tray for the seat to sit on so the amps can go under the seat (unless I was to get Soundstream towers which I could put above the batts in the cargo area or reduce the H to 18 inches and put an amp rack below the box). My local AA dealer reads these forums so I don’t want to say what my sub budget is, but just pretend there isn’t a limit (within reason please, let’s just say SMD/SoundStream and under)! Thanks!

Did you put a SSD in the computer?

I thought this was a joke... I figured they were going to say it was oregano or something... Are kids really this hard up to get high? Call me crazy, but the people I know just drink and use real drugs. If it's the chems that get you high find a safer method to use them. Since they keep comparing it to THC why not add it to butter and make cookies?

Those motors are way bigger than yours and discounting that you would still need all of the electronics that go with those motors. You're better off getting another car or modifying your existing motor. If you're dead set on a new motor you should be looking at similar models/setups like a Taurus for example. Back in the day it was pretty popular for people to put Sable motors in Contours.

I have no idea... Generally when I go out I drink 7-10 beers with some booze mixed in. The other night I had 6 or 7 beers at the bar and two Captain and Cokes (stupid ass MSU loosing to Butler?! WTF). When I got back to the house I had some coffee with American Honey (honey bourbon) and Carolins. After that a tall (2-3 shots I guess) Buffalo Trace (bourbon). I was pretty hammered, but I'm out of form (tore up my knee so I was on painkillers for the last month - acetaminophen and alcohol = liver failure - no thanks). I never drink to the point of no return because I hate not being in control. I generally drink until I get a solid buzz and then maintain it by NOT doing shots.

Being put on trial as an adult and being an adult are two totally different things and depend on the crime. These days are no different than they were when I grew up other than schools are more out of control. I grew up not far from where I live now (2 miles at most) and we border Detroit which I think should say enough. While our town is sheltered from Detroit for the most part it's still an influence. I saw kids with guns, I had guns pulled on me twice and I was shot at once by kids that were good kids who made poor decisions. Had I been shot things would have gone down differently, but I wasn't. As far as the rape thing goes, I don't know the details so I can't even say one way or the other nor would I especially since it is such a hot topic. All I can do is compare it to my experiences and say that every year literally close to a hundred kids a year would have gone to jail for statutory rape here. It was common for seniors and juniors to date freshmen. Girls have always aimed higher around here. The juniors and seniors were with college guys and the sophomores and freshmen were with juniors and seniors. More often than not statutory rape comes into play when a parent decides it is no longer ok. Again, I have no idea about this girls situation, I'm just commenting on the law itself which is more often than not highly selective and open to interpretation which is not something a law should be. I'm not trying to defend these kids, they deserve whatever they get, my comments were more about the population in general and changing laws because of 10 people out of 300,000,000. I understand that often times laws are passed due to specific events and this could prove to be one of those laws, but more laws aren't always the best answer. There were existing laws in place to protect this girl and for whatever reason(s) the police weren't involved, but the fact remains that they could have been because as we all know bullying to an extreme such as this is against the law already. The term bully can be used to describe all kinds of people and this law (while I haven't looked into it so I could very well be talking out my ass) could more than likely be used for all kinds of situations where it doesn't apply. For example a kid calling another kid stupid is technically bullying. A kid making you move out of the way in the hall is again bullying. A guy blocking an isle in the library and not moving so you can get by is yet again bullying. This girl wasn't bullied, she was raped (law is law), assaulted, and harassed.