Hugh G. Rection Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 nothing wrong with that unless you believe that ppl deserve tax breaks on corporate jets. come on now thats just ridiculous i even saw and ex house republican(can't remember his name) say that he paid less taxes than he gardener that in no shape from or fashion is right i think if anything it should just be even Would you support a flat tax with no loopholes? I would. If I had to pay the same percentage as the rich folks I might accidentally be able to start saving money! It is a popular thought among conservatives. A flat tax for EVERYONE is only fair. But whenever it is brought up to people who think the rich don't pay enough, they don't like it. They don't just want the tax rate to be fair. They want the rich to pay it ALL and them to pay nothing. How is that fair? It's just another form of entitlement. as long as it is a precentage the rich will always pay more bc they make more but thats only fair how exactly is it fair for a wealthy person to pay more? i guarantee you 90% of the time that rich guy puts in 100+ hours of time every week into their company........ u misunderstood me. im sayin on a precentage that if you make 100 dollars a week and pay 13% you pay 13 dollars in taxes but if you make 100,000 a week and pay 13% then you pay 13,000 same rate of taxes just if you make more u pay more i still dont see how thats fair. why should a wealthy person give the government more money? its not like they get any more (dis)service from the government than anyone else.... really, if you look at government benefits and programs, in a way, the more you pay in the more you are on your own. those people thay pay in the most are the ones who are guaranteed to never be able to benefit from what they've paid in. Owner of BigAss Ports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhook426 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 How about making big companies put a percentage of they're profit from every quarter into a fund to use as a stimulus package or pay back our debts to other countries? just a thought? Yeah, but then what you are doing is punishing success. What would be the business motivation for that? What would keep them from closing their doors and moving to another country that doesn't do that? You have to keep in mind that the rich are the ones who hire people. You can't swipe their profits and still expect them to make payroll. The only reason I thought this up is oil companies and big corporations are make billions in profit each quarter, that's after everyone is paid and all the bills are taken care of. I'm not wanting to punish for success but there is defiantly some crooked price increases and such that keep our inflation going up. Next time she tries to punch you in the stomach, whip your wiener out and chase her around. Show her who's boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh G. Rection Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 How about making big companies put a percentage of they're profit from every quarter into a fund to use as a stimulus package or pay back our debts to other countries? just a thought? Yeah, but then what you are doing is punishing success. What would be the business motivation for that? What would keep them from closing their doors and moving to another country that doesn't do that? You have to keep in mind that the rich are the ones who hire people. You can't swipe their profits and still expect them to make payroll. The only reason I thought this up is oil companies and big corporations are make billions in profit each quarter, that's after everyone is paid and all the bills are taken care of. I'm not wanting to punish for success but there is defiantly some crooked price increases and such that keep our inflation going up. welcome to capitalism. capitalism is better than socialism any day. Owner of BigAss Ports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jd1102 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 nothing wrong with that unless you believe that ppl deserve tax breaks on corporate jets. come on now thats just ridiculous i even saw and ex house republican(can't remember his name) say that he paid less taxes than he gardener that in no shape from or fashion is right i think if anything it should just be even Would you support a flat tax with no loopholes? I would. If I had to pay the same percentage as the rich folks I might accidentally be able to start saving money! It is a popular thought among conservatives. A flat tax for EVERYONE is only fair. But whenever it is brought up to people who think the rich don't pay enough, they don't like it. They don't just want the tax rate to be fair. They want the rich to pay it ALL and them to pay nothing. How is that fair? It's just another form of entitlement. as long as it is a precentage the rich will always pay more bc they make more but thats only fair how exactly is it fair for a wealthy person to pay more? i guarantee you 90% of the time that rich guy puts in 100+ hours of time every week into their company........ u misunderstood me. im sayin on a precentage that if you make 100 dollars a week and pay 13% you pay 13 dollars in taxes but if you make 100,000 a week and pay 13% then you pay 13,000 same rate of taxes just if you make more u pay more i still dont see how thats fair. why should a wealthy person give the government more money? its not like they get any more (dis)service from the government than anyone else.... really, if you look at government benefits and programs, in a way, the more you pay in the more you are on your own. those people thay pay in the most are the ones who are guaranteed to never be able to benefit from what they've paid in. so what are you sayin everyone should pay 500 dollars a week or whatever even if they don't make that much Edit: how is that any more fair? its actually less fair precentage wise some would pay more out of there checks and maybe there whole check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jd1102 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 nothing wrong with that unless you believe that ppl deserve tax breaks on corporate jets. come on now thats just ridiculous i even saw and ex house republican(can't remember his name) say that he paid less taxes than he gardener that in no shape from or fashion is right i think if anything it should just be even Would you support a flat tax with no loopholes? I would. If I had to pay the same percentage as the rich folks I might accidentally be able to start saving money! It is a popular thought among conservatives. A flat tax for EVERYONE is only fair. But whenever it is brought up to people who think the rich don't pay enough, they don't like it. They don't just want the tax rate to be fair. They want the rich to pay it ALL and them to pay nothing. How is that fair? It's just another form of entitlement. as long as it is a precentage the rich will always pay more bc they make more but thats only fair how exactly is it fair for a wealthy person to pay more? i guarantee you 90% of the time that rich guy puts in 100+ hours of time every week into their company........ u misunderstood me. im sayin on a precentage that if you make 100 dollars a week and pay 13% you pay 13 dollars in taxes but if you make 100,000 a week and pay 13% then you pay 13,000 same rate of taxes just if you make more u pay more i still dont see how thats fair. why should a wealthy person give the government more money? its not like they get any more (dis)service from the government than anyone else.... really, if you look at government benefits and programs, in a way, the more you pay in the more you are on your own. those people thay pay in the most are the ones who are guaranteed to never be able to benefit from what they've paid in. that would just make the poor poorer and the rich richer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jd1102 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 this nation is supposed to be about takin care of everybody not just the rich man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh G. Rection Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 so what are you sayin everyone should pay 500 dollars a week or whatever even if they don't make that much Edit: how is that any more fair? its actually less fair precentage wise some would pay more out of there checks and maybe there whole check i paid $18,000 in income taxes last year. wanna know how much i got back at tax time? a whopping $1,200. dude down the street only worked 1 month of the year, paid in $140, and got back $4,000. dont try to talk to me about taxes being fair...... between me and my wife, collectively, we paid right at $30,000 in income taxes last fiscal year. collectively, we got back under $3,000. so yeah, that dude down the street deserved to "get back" nearly 40x what he paid in, and we got back less than 10% of what we paid in. did i get any more "service" from the government than they did? no, i didnt. unlike him, i didnt also get an extra $20,000- in benefits through the year like he did. so yeah, once again, dont try to talk to me about it being "fair". Owner of BigAss Ports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namosh Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 How about making big companies put a percentage of they're profit from every quarter into a fund to use as a stimulus package or pay back our debts to other countries? just a thought? Yeah, but then what you are doing is punishing success. What would be the business motivation for that? What would keep them from closing their doors and moving to another country that doesn't do that? You have to keep in mind that the rich are the ones who hire people. You can't swipe their profits and still expect them to make payroll. The only reason I thought this up is oil companies and big corporations are make billions in profit each quarter, that's after everyone is paid and all the bills are taken care of. I'm not wanting to punish for success but there is defiantly some crooked price increases and such that keep our inflation going up. Who do you think is getting these billions of dollars in profit? The big oil companies are publicly traded entities. That means they have investors. You could buy stock in Exxon and then YOU would be one of the fat cats who are constantly being demonized for making money. My Ram Quad Cab Blow-through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jd1102 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 so what are you sayin everyone should pay 500 dollars a week or whatever even if they don't make that much Edit: how is that any more fair? its actually less fair precentage wise some would pay more out of there checks and maybe there whole check i paid $18,000 in income taxes last year. wanna know how much i got back at tax time? a whopping $1,200. dude down the street only worked 1 month of the year, paid in $140, and got back $4,000. dont try to talk to me about taxes being fair...... between me and my wife, collectively, we paid right at $30,000 in income taxes last fiscal year. collectively, we got back under $3,000. so yeah, that dude down the street deserved to "get back" nearly 40x what he paid in, and we got back less than 10% of what we paid in. did i get any more "service" from the government than they did? no, i didnt. unlike him, i didnt also get an extra $20,000- in benefits through the year like he did. so yeah, once again, dont try to talk to me about it being "fair". thats our taxes now it wouldn't be like that under a fair tax code. or at least i wouldn't vote for it if it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh G. Rection Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 this nation is supposed to be about takin care of everybody not just the rich man no, this nation is supposed to be about freedom, not "taking care of everybody". the government needs to spread my work ethic, not my paycheck. if everyone is gonna have the same thing as everyone else regardless of how much you work, then whats the fucking point of working? Owner of BigAss Ports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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