That1Kid Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Didn't bother to read anymore than the first line of that post. Sorry. Upgrade=redid? K that makes sense. All I did was give simple advice. I said do the big 3 because you never mentioned that it was done. Have a wonderful day, bud. Quote -98' Ford Expedition (Rest in Peace) -AVH-P3300BT -Crescendo BC5500 -4 18" DC m2 Level 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokerklown Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I would have suggested big 3 also since you never stated it out rite man, I personally don't see a real use for a cap anymore when a nice battery can be had for the same price or close to a big cap at least up here at the local shops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanitarium Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 1 Farad of capacitance can store roughly 72 watts for 1 second at 12 volts. Wattage is amperage times voltage. So basicly, 1 farad is good for 6 amps of draw over 1 second (again figuring at 12 volts). So lets say you want capacitance to handle an amplifier pulling 200 amps for a 30 second bass race, and say you've found a really good song that plays that note for 28 seconds. (200 amps x 12 volts)x28 seconds = 67200 joules. divide that by 6 = 11,200 farad of capacitance needed to be able to have the full benefits of a capacitor for the entire bass race. Now it does get more complicated then that, your batteries also store electricity at a different charge and discharge rate, and all this is only needed beyond what your alternator can supply, that's not being used by the vehicle to run, and what isn't being negated by the wiring setup. I'm not going to get into that cause everything affects all of those features, wire length, temperture, life of batteries, resistance at connection points, etc, etc. The whole point of this is, capacitors are almost pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam311 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 well redid usually means upgraded to people with a lil common sense. and yes now i am going to be an asshole just because you called me one. I upgraded all of my wires to 0 ga. power wire to alt and starter and ground to block and frame plus I rust and corrosion proofed all of it by using grade 8 hardware and a shittone of dielectric grease. Ive got a NATEF Cert in automotive electrical I know how to do wires. I started this thread because I wanted to learn more about capacitors because I'm trying to get more into subs and shit like that. I didn't expect to get trolled by a couple guys trying to be smartasses just because I'm new to these forums. I thank the people who give me good information but if you want to troll me and call me an asshole you can just go fuck yourself and I hope all you shit gets stolen. I personally did not see anyone being an asshole to you dude, I think you have some fucking issues. No one was trolling you so try to pull that wad of panties out of your fucking vagina. And for being a certified auto electrician you sure seem like a dumb ass... Your the only one that is being an asshole here you fucking douche Quote so far... HU- pioneer DEH-P59001B Amp- crescendo BC2000D Wire- 1/0 awg welding lead Electric- Big 3 ^same wire Subs- 2 Obsidian Audio 12 d4's Box 4ft^3 ported at 33hz. designed by Ram-Designs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theTank77 Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) well redid usually means upgraded to people with a lil common sense. and yes now i am going to be an asshole just because you called me one. I upgraded all of my wires to 0 ga. power wire to alt and starter and ground to block and frame plus I rust and corrosion proofed all of it by using grade 8 hardware and a shittone of dielectric grease. Ive got a NATEF Cert in automotive electrical I know how to do wires. I started this thread because I wanted to learn more about capacitors because I'm trying to get more into subs and shit like that. I didn't expect to get trolled by a couple guys trying to be smartasses just because I'm new to these forums. I thank the people who give me good information but if you want to troll me and call me an asshole you can just go fuck yourself and I hope all you shit gets stolen. I personally did not see anyone being an asshole to you dude, I think you have some fucking issues. No one was trolling you so try to pull that wad of panties out of your fucking vagina. And for being a certified auto electrician you sure seem like a dumb ass... Your the only one that is being an asshole here you fucking douche actually right now yes i do have issues because my dad passed away 2 weeks ago and my ex fiancee left me 3 weeks ago and now i am getting kicked out of my apt because i was living with my dad to try and save money and the rent is waaaay to high for me to afford. I'm in a stage of depression and I'm very easily pissed off. im sorry to everyone. i havnt slept in 5 days because of everything that is going on and that isnt helping my situation. once again im going to say i am sorry. i blew up and i shouldnt have. Edited August 13, 2011 by theTank77 Quote my build log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theTank77 Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 1 Farad of capacitance can store roughly 72 watts for 1 second at 12 volts. Wattage is amperage times voltage. So basicly, 1 farad is good for 6 amps of draw over 1 second (again figuring at 12 volts). So lets say you want capacitance to handle an amplifier pulling 200 amps for a 30 second bass race, and say you've found a really good song that plays that note for 28 seconds. (200 amps x 12 volts)x28 seconds = 67200 joules. divide that by 6 = 11,200 farad of capacitance needed to be able to have the full benefits of a capacitor for the entire bass race. Now it does get more complicated then that, your batteries also store electricity at a different charge and discharge rate, and all this is only needed beyond what your alternator can supply, that's not being used by the vehicle to run, and what isn't being negated by the wiring setup. I'm not going to get into that cause everything affects all of those features, wire length, temperture, life of batteries, resistance at connection points, etc, etc. The whole point of this is, capacitors are almost pointless. thank you this is what i was trying to figure out Quote my build log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam311 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 well redid usually means upgraded to people with a lil common sense. and yes now i am going to be an asshole just because you called me one. I upgraded all of my wires to 0 ga. power wire to alt and starter and ground to block and frame plus I rust and corrosion proofed all of it by using grade 8 hardware and a shittone of dielectric grease. Ive got a NATEF Cert in automotive electrical I know how to do wires. I started this thread because I wanted to learn more about capacitors because I'm trying to get more into subs and shit like that. I didn't expect to get trolled by a couple guys trying to be smartasses just because I'm new to these forums. I thank the people who give me good information but if you want to troll me and call me an asshole you can just go fuck yourself and I hope all you shit gets stolen. I personally did not see anyone being an asshole to you dude, I think you have some fucking issues. No one was trolling you so try to pull that wad of panties out of your fucking vagina. And for being a certified auto electrician you sure seem like a dumb ass... Your the only one that is being an asshole here you fucking douche actually right now yes i do have issues because my dad passed away 2 weeks ago and my ex fiancee left me 3 weeks ago and now i am getting kicked out of my apt because i was living with my dad to try and save money and the rent is waaaay to high for me to afford. I'm in a stage of depression and I'm very easily pissed off. im sorry to everyone. i havnt slept in 5 days because of everything that is going on and that isnt helping my situation. once again im going to say i am sorry. i blew up and i shouldnt have. I'm very sorry for your losses man, I wouldn't wish that upon anyone. Apology accepted. But here on this forum we try to be pretty tight man, like an SMD family. People here are cool and we are always glad to help others out. There are a couple assholes but you just learn to ignore them... But other than that these are some of the coolest people out there, and they know their stuff. Once again man sorry for your losses. Keep it cool, and as hard as it seems to do right now keep your head up! One last thing FUCK BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote so far... HU- pioneer DEH-P59001B Amp- crescendo BC2000D Wire- 1/0 awg welding lead Electric- Big 3 ^same wire Subs- 2 Obsidian Audio 12 d4's Box 4ft^3 ported at 33hz. designed by Ram-Designs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercharged DCs Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Sorry for your loses bro, keep your head held high and you'll get through it. This thread is a good read about capacitors. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/14041-rf-capacitors/ Quote Bassless once again. Can't seem to keep a system for more than a few weeks Saving for a '06 Nissan 350z, look for build around June 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theTank77 Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 thanks guys. also on top off all the other shit that happened I also just lost my job a month ago and up where i live its very hard to find a job. and since obama is stopping all uneployment in december thats all ill get for unemployment..... i am not having a good year Quote my build log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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