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Also the Obsidian subwoofers have a more powerful motor with a BL^2/Re of 100 compared the P3's BL^2/Re of 71, have lower moving mass, have a lower compliance suspension that allows them to be both ported or sealed, handle more power, etc.

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Obsidian is what I would do! Actually it is what I do do! Nick made a great sub and is giving us a great price! Most people in the forums don't know this but these woofers are basically aimed only towards us. People that know and want good subs at good prices. I support the cause

so far...

HU- pioneer DEH-P59001B

Amp- crescendo BC2000D

Wire- 1/0 awg welding lead

Electric- Big 3 ^same wire

Subs- 2 Obsidian Audio 12 d4's

Box 4ft^3 ported at 33hz. designed by Ram-Designs

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Obsidian audio. Google it. Designed by Nick from Stereo Integrity.

There. 'fixed now. :)

This. Such a common misconception too which was birthed by internet gossipers.

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Obsidian 15s don't look like 158 dollar woofers in action. Hell of a deal subs, I've only seen vids and pics, no personal exp. but what I've seen bargain.

^^^ this (except for the never having seen them part lol I see them everyday while dangerously driving down the road with blurred vision)

so far...

HU- pioneer DEH-P59001B

Amp- crescendo BC2000D

Wire- 1/0 awg welding lead

Electric- Big 3 ^same wire

Subs- 2 Obsidian Audio 12 d4's

Box 4ft^3 ported at 33hz. designed by Ram-Designs

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