evermaxx Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Okay so a friend has an alright system I was checking it out and I seen that his ground wire is 8g but his power wire is 4g. I told him it could fry his amp because of this, im correct right? He said its been fine, but I would hate for his amp to take a crap just because of a 4ft wire. Team Subsonic Lows Get your garbage EMF products of my amp bitch Man....it makes a nice work bench
FroznBeavrBALLs Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 how much power? 2 DC 12" lvl 4s 1 DC 1.2k XS Power S3400 big 3 Alll KNU wire Pioneer HU cheapo Legacy coaxes (just for now) http://www.stevemead...n-sentra-build/
evermaxx Posted November 30, 2011 Author Report Posted November 30, 2011 Not much, its a 600w infinity amp. Team Subsonic Lows Get your garbage EMF products of my amp bitch Man....it makes a nice work bench
kam311 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Eh it's not the ideal situation but it'll probably be okay on 600w so far... HU- pioneer DEH-P59001B Amp- crescendo BC2000D Wire- 1/0 awg welding lead Electric- Big 3 ^same wire Subs- 2 Obsidian Audio 12 d4's Box 4ft^3 ported at 33hz. designed by Ram-Designs
FroznBeavrBALLs Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 i have heard that its ok for your ground to be 1 size smaller than your power. like Kam said, its not ideal but thats not alot of power. tell him to upgrade his ground to 4awg and he would be good. 2 DC 12" lvl 4s 1 DC 1.2k XS Power S3400 big 3 Alll KNU wire Pioneer HU cheapo Legacy coaxes (just for now) http://www.stevemead...n-sentra-build/
ALPINE408 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 ground should be as big as power or you might as well just do everything in the smaller wire in electronics the circute starts with the ground side not the power so ground is just as important as power if not even more important can you fry an amp that way with big power yes your buddie is fine but it can perform much better with the right size wire Have you ever had your woofers blown?
Emoxihax Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 depends on the distance of the wires if the ground is literally right next to the amp where the power is from the battery up front that would be fine 2004 Volkswagen GLI 1 10" Skar VVX ^^^ Looking for an amp to run it, Pm me if you have one ^^^
SnowDrifter Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Your electrical system is just that. A system. It is only as strong as it's weakest link - in this case, the ground wire to the amp. I don't think it will break anything - but it's certainly not ideal. IMHO get the biggest wire as is practical ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444
Wicks Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Kirchhoff's second law The principle of conservation of energy implies that: The directed sum of the electrical potential differences (voltage) around any closed circuit is zero, or: More simply, the sum of the emfs in any closed loop is equivalent to the sum of the potential drops in that loop, or: The algebraic sum of the products of the resistances of the conductors and the currents in them in a closed loop is equal to the total emf available in that loop. Basically, the current throught the positive wire is the same as the current in the negative wire only in the opposite direction. With 600W, you're only in the realm of ~40a so a short run of 8ga is fine. The longer cable run should be the largest wire if you have to choose (assuming the smaller wire can still appropriately handle the current). Extra resistance on the ground wire could lead to noise and ground loops. This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026
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