tylerthecanadian Posted February 8, 2012 Report Posted February 8, 2012 Why use MDF instead of plywood. Isn't 3/4" plywood sturdy enough?
IanJohnson Posted February 8, 2012 Report Posted February 8, 2012 i did my research and went with 3/4 birch plywood for my builds. Just my 2 cents Duel Sa-8 V.2 D2 Sub Enclosure 2001 Pontiac Grand am Head Unit - OEM Processor - RF 3sixty.2 Subs - RE Audio SXX12D4 Amplifier - Kicker ZX1000.1 Mids & Highs- Rockford Fosgate Power T2652-S Rockford Fosgate Power T1693 Mids & Highs Amp - Rockford Fosgate Power T400-4 Wiring - 1/0 AWG, 4 AWG, 8 AWG Alternator - Stock Batteries - non ext Box- Absolute PSEB12BK
Socky Posted February 8, 2012 Report Posted February 8, 2012 regular plywood has too many poors in it, birch is compounded same as mdf, but birch is stronger and lighter. Jeep Cherokee 4dr -4.75 in front, new rusty's 4.5 in rear leafs -micky thompson 35x14.50x15 -locker rear -Rusty's offroad Engine/transmission/transfer case/crossmember/gas tank skid plates -Warn front bumper with 8000lb winch -Custom rear bumper -Warrior product tube doors (summertime) -Optima redtop (starter) -26XK miles and still runs like a bat out of hell Kenwood H/U 1/0 wire, 136 amp alt 200 ah batteries 12.7 daily 2 Apsm 1500 @ 2 ohm strapped on zv3 d1 with ns softparts Mb quart 125.4 wired to 4 aura 6's 3.6 cube box tuned to 36 plays down to 23hz
727Designs Posted February 8, 2012 Report Posted February 8, 2012 If you can find voidless AC Ply it will also work, but I prefer 7+ ply Birch. I typically use 11 or 13 ply cabinet grade. -Zach-2010 Toyota TundraFull Hybrid Audio SQ 7" BDS on 37's 2000 Ford Expedition 160+ dB Green Turd -SOLD-
Blackedout Posted February 8, 2012 Report Posted February 8, 2012 The typical AC plywood flexes a little more than desirable to be used on boxes. Not to mention, the "C" in AC represents a side of the plywood that can have defects and voids, knots, etc.... A characteristic that wouldn't be used in cabinets, and shouldn't be used in speaker boxes. Birch is normally grade A front and back, and is hands down the best plywood to go with when it comes to our applications. ~1/2 the weight of a normal sheet of MDF, a little more resistant to water in comparison to MDF (for marine applications especially). The more plys the better. The plys (the grain of the wood) are cross laminated to increase the strength. MDF is half the price of birch, double the weight, and is pretty stout. Flex is minimal in most applications and can be reduced to almost none with a little bracing. A few definitions Plywood Grades: A - One of the highest possible face grades available. It is typically sanded and it may contain seamless wood patches or inlays. B- This face is unsanded and has a consistent surface with the possibility of some minor open splits C plugged - This face is unsanded and can contain limited size knots and other defects that are plugged and touch sanded. C - This face is unsanded and can contain limited size knots and other defects D- This face is unsanded and can contain large voids and other defects. Knowing those grades, you should be able to put two and two together. When you ask for A-C, A-B, etc... If you're really looking for a substitute to birch, make sure its a high ply grade A plywood. Trunk Build Log
87regal Posted February 8, 2012 Report Posted February 8, 2012 Baltic Birch>Arauco(or similar) pine plywood>MDF I can't stand MDF.
lukaQ Posted February 8, 2012 Report Posted February 8, 2012 mdf is ultra easy to work with Got carbon fiber dust cap???
RCP Audio Posted February 8, 2012 Report Posted February 8, 2012 i found ply wasnt nearly as strong as mdf and had to double up my entire box when it was made out of ply. but that may of been because it was rubbish stuff hah PSN: Rcp_soundz Good rule of thump is go by what fuse size is being used in these amps. The higher the more amperage it pulls, this is what I look at. I'll stick a 300 amp fuse in a potato and sell it to you for $2k. 1991 Mazda 323VERY small build thread here: http://www.stevemead...23-small-build/
tylerthecanadian Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Posted February 8, 2012 Good information. I am not building a box with plywood though. I am stiffening my rear doors and am only using small pieces here and there. I was using AC fir plywood because I have it around but was having mixed results with sound quality. It's for 6x9s and 6.5s. Am I going to hear a difference by switching to MDF?
bigmescan Posted February 8, 2012 Report Posted February 8, 2012 Plywood is also graded by a person and their determination of A or B can vary or even C. I use to work at a plywood plant. And the 3/4 cross sections may have voids. I've used birch and is superior then regular plywood. If you ever have a piece of 3/4 ply and 3/4birch and tap with a hammer the plywood will sound hollow is some areas and I've yet to hear that with birch. And plus the birch is just lighter than MDF. SONY XAV-701HDRF power 400.4 RF power 1000bd 3 Sundown x8's d22004 f150 single cab2 sets of components MB quart 6.5 onx (2 tweets 2 6.5 perdoor)stock batt up fronBIG 3http://www.stevemead...-vid-pg-11-922/http://www.youtube.c.../TheBigmescan74
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