Robert8252 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 You're making it too hard on yourself Matt. Two 8s on anything over 300 watts will easily do a low to mid 130. If your that worried about it just do something along the line of what I said and buy a nice 32 band eq or so and make it even in the low end. 2013 F150 Crew Cab Old Build Log Feedback 2013 F150 Equipment - Some Awesome Stereo Sound Making Stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 i need a processor for sure that way i can make the response really flat but yes, i do have a habit of overthinking things -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltortuga94 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Now I have really no experience/knowledge with boxes other than sealed & ported so i could be a complete noob but I'll try to help, anyways would you be able to try an ABC/Double Tuned ported (not sure what the proper name is). Like have a standard ported but with two ports tuned to different frequencies? Maybe one be 23 & the other 46 since it has to play from 20-50hz. theoretically (i will try and be easy with this explanation) doing this causes two unwanted outcomes 1. it takes the octaves of the tuning and causes them to destructively combine. ie two sharp drop offs at the tuning freqs 2. the ports are tuning the airspace, not the individual ports. so having one short and one long will only cause the actual tuning to be somewhere between the two but with a lot of destructive interference as noted in number 1 Ahhhhhhhhh, alright well I tried. lol Best of luck though with figuring something out. System: Basically Stock In process of upgrading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Now I have really no experience/knowledge with boxes other than sealed & ported so i could be a complete noob but I'll try to help, anyways would you be able to try an ABC/Double Tuned ported (not sure what the proper name is). Like have a standard ported but with two ports tuned to different frequencies? Maybe one be 23 & the other 46 since it has to play from 20-50hz. theoretically (i will try and be easy with this explanation) doing this causes two unwanted outcomes 1. it takes the octaves of the tuning and causes them to destructively combine. ie two sharp drop offs at the tuning freqs 2. the ports are tuning the airspace, not the individual ports. so having one short and one long will only cause the actual tuning to be somewhere between the two but with a lot of destructive interference as noted in number 1 Ahhhhhhhhh, alright well I tried. lol Best of luck though with figuring something out. appreciate it bro and there is no harm in trying things. its how we learn -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 You will definitely need a processor. SQ gets expensive quick. I just dont think two 8s are going to play clean down to 20 hz regardless of what you tune it to. I would tune to 30 if i really needed to do this. You'll still be able to reach below tuning and about 25 hz is the average cut off for hearing anything. Those that say I can hear 19 or whatever cant tell the difference between musical reproduction and mechanical noise. lol.Alot alot alot of SQ guys run a front woofer sealed. usually a single 10. remmber its all about getting it to sound like its in front of you. With a strong strong substage thats tough to do. Ive thought about going the sq route and it is easiyl way more work. so I say fuck that. THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Agree,.... Again, no where am i a dude that knows anything. People on this site have forgotten more about audio than i know. But, N8's on to something with a woof up front,..or somewhere up front,... I have seen a woof buried in the arm rest and such, for a goal of getting the reproduction "forward" Or ideas of "bouncing" off of the rear window to try and "trick" you in to thinking it was coming from the front. Again,... no help with an enclosure, or subs, or tuning........ill just drink my beer,.... (Except- a tune of around 30 would let you roll about 5hz below, getting you about where the audibleness would start to leave.....might be just right?) But, i like the idea of a flat as possible curve, to start off, with a DSP, and a DSP (or processor) of extreme kick assness (you can all feel free to use that word as you like, but, you owe me a nickle every time you say or use it, care of KYLAR96, thank you) of which will be probably expensive as all get out, and maybe a little difficult to set up and use,... but it would be tits to see..... This is a cool ass thread.......just throwing that out there... SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 You will definitely need a processor. SQ gets expensive quick. I just dont think two 8s are going to play clean down to 20 hz regardless of what you tune it to. I would tune to 30 if i really needed to do this. You'll still be able to reach below tuning and about 25 hz is the average cut off for hearing anything. Those that say I can hear 19 or whatever cant tell the difference between musical reproduction and mechanical noise. lol.Alot alot alot of SQ guys run a front woofer sealed. usually a single 10. remmber its all about getting it to sound like its in front of you. With a strong strong substage thats tough to do. Ive thought about going the sq route and it is easiyl way more work. so I say fuck that. what i am banking on is my good old tang bands i had 6 of the neos once and that played 23 hz with ease. yes it was 6 and with 2k rms but still it would do mid 30s at that low of a freq. which is way more than i need. but then again my car was much smaller too.. hmm i wonder if i can find a place to put a woofer up front -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Lightning Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 I have a question ... What do you plan to process with a processor ?? Sub Bass ?? Have you ever thought about running 4 8s isoberic tuned to or around 22 htz ?? dual chambered of course ... with external ports so whare you can have minimum airspace per driver and have maximum port at the same time ... just a thought ... Kenwood / HELIX / Linear Power (For The Love Of Music) / Brutal Sounds / OverKill Electric Co Questions About Sound Quality ?? Try Here ... Sound Quality, What does it REALLY mean ?? SMD SOTM Winner "White Lightning" 1997 GMT400 Chevy Silverado "The Green Dickle" 1994 GMT400 Chevy "Phantom Dually" Randal's 2007 Chevy Avalanche (we haven't named this one yet) Dylan's "Brutal" 17 Chevy Cruze RS Hatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Lightning Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 You will definitely need a processor. SQ gets expensive quick. I just dont think two 8s are going to play clean down to 20 hz regardless of what you tune it to. I would tune to 30 if i really needed to do this. You'll still be able to reach below tuning and about 25 hz is the average cut off for hearing anything. Those that say I can hear 19 or whatever cant tell the difference between musical reproduction and mechanical noise. lol.Alot alot alot of SQ guys run a front woofer sealed. usually a single 10. remmber its all about getting it to sound like its in front of you. With a strong strong substage thats tough to do. Ive thought about going the sq route and it is easiyl way more work. so I say fuck that. I'm not one to argue with a moderator ... So I won't ... I just wish You could sit and demo my truck for a while ... Kenwood / HELIX / Linear Power (For The Love Of Music) / Brutal Sounds / OverKill Electric Co Questions About Sound Quality ?? Try Here ... Sound Quality, What does it REALLY mean ?? SMD SOTM Winner "White Lightning" 1997 GMT400 Chevy Silverado "The Green Dickle" 1994 GMT400 Chevy "Phantom Dually" Randal's 2007 Chevy Avalanche (we haven't named this one yet) Dylan's "Brutal" 17 Chevy Cruze RS Hatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted May 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 I have a question ... What do you plan to process with a processor ?? Sub Bass ?? Have you ever thought about running 4 8s isoberic tuned to or around 22 htz ?? dual chambered of course ... with external ports so whare you can have minimum airspace per driver and have maximum port at the same time ... just a thought ... You say dual chambered. Explain more clearly what this box would look like Oh and the processor would process it all. Full active -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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