Pasta Prime Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Just ordered mine Friday I think it was. Cant wait!! 1 Quote New build coming........ YouTube:http://www.youtube.c...6?feature=guide Old Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d-on-the-cheap/ Old Screen name: Redrebel66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) Having a second VM-1 can be a great tool. By plugging one into the 12V (lighter) outlet, you will be reading the voltage at battery/alternator basically because there is very little current flowing to the 12V lighter outlet. Voltage drop is calcuated by this formula Amps X Ohms = Volts, thus is you basically have zero amps flowing, you can not have a voltage drop, and thus you will be reading the battery/alternator voltage. HOWEVER, voltage AT your amplifier(s) can be a totally different thing. Huge currents can flow to the amplifier(s), even though the resistance of the wiring is small, it will still cause a voltage drop. I connected one VM-1 to my lighter, and one right at the amplifier's connections by lengthing the wires going to the VM-1 (you can make these as long as you like without causing any issues or voiding your warranty). With music and subwoofers, I see 0.8V - 1.2V lower at the amplifier. On the dyno I'm seeing 1.6V drop at the amplifier. 1/0 AWG is good, but it ain't that good. I am pretty confident that most people who try this will be very surprised how much voltage drop at the amplifier they have. I challange you to measure yours and post your results. By having multiple units you can check your system like this, and try to correct it by using better distribution/fuses and wiring. If you are wondering, the basic formula for how much more power your amplifier would make with different battery voltage is ((Higher battery voltage / lower battery voltage) ^2 ) x how much power you made at the lower voltage Example, I just dyno'd the T2500.1bdcp in my Jeep. It did 2365 watts into 1 ohm with the battery voltage AT THE AMP at 12.24Vdc. If I could keep 12.6Vdc at the amplifier, the amp should dyno this much power: ((12.6V / 12.24V) ^2 x 2365 watts) This works out to 2506 watts at 12.6V. Rockford rates their power at 14.4V so, clearly this amplifier makes rated power @ 1 ohm and then some. If by some act of God I could keep 13.8V at the amplifier I could get that amp to put out: ((13.8V / 12.24V) ^2 x 2365 watts) This works out to 3006 watts. Now this is only true if you have an amplifier with an unregulated power supply. Some amplifiers, like JL slash series for instance, have fully regulated supplies so this math doesn't apply. Those amplifiers will put out the same power reguardless of the battery voltage within a resonable range. Edited April 15, 2013 by Tony D 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) Nice man. Could see the stuff your up to all day..... Love it.. and keep it coming. Edited April 14, 2013 by KyLar96 Quote SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasta Prime Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Woot!! Your Shipment # for Order #100003891 Quote New build coming........ YouTube:http://www.youtube.c...6?feature=guide Old Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d-on-the-cheap/ Old Screen name: Redrebel66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vetkilr01 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Good info Tony...and a sneaky way to try and sell me 2 more of these things. Is there bulk discounts...lol ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris4b11 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Just ordered mines can't wait to install it. Wish i had a chance to get a vu meter Quote Factory double din navi unit with 30gb internal Crescendo bc3500 DD 9512i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysler200s Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Hey Steve, I'm finally getting around to my install and I need to chop the case on VM to fit the dash. I was wondering if I could get an extra case and what the cost would be, thanks in advance Quote 2011 Chrysler 200 S (Black on Black on Black w/ black trim) Changing all the time but, for now..... *Coming Soon* 80sq ft. SS Damp Pro (INSTALLED) 36sq ft. SS Luxury Liner (INSTALLED) Big 3 (RF 0 Gauge) All RF power wire, speaker wire, RCA's RF T3 6.5" components (2 sets) have RF T800-4 ad (mids & highs) XS Power D925 XS Power D3400 have still undecided on sub/sub amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtitan Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 This is pretty cool, will definitely be purchasing one soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASS_ZEALOT! Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 looks like im buying another very soon .. ! heres a quick vid of the VM-1 dancin' http://youtu.be/FE5fLEx6eao Quote SMD makes the best products! I bought them all! Click the banner below! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunkjuice1 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Having a second VM-1 can be a great tool. By plugging one into the 12V (lighter) outlet, you will be reading the voltage at battery/alternator basically because there is very little current flowing to the 12V lighter outlet. Voltage drop is calcuated by this formula Amps X Ohms = Volts, thus is you basically have zero amps flowing, you can not have a voltage drop, and thus you will be reading the battery/alternator voltage. HOWEVER, voltage AT your amplifier(s) can be a totally different thing. Huge currents can flow to the amplifier(s), even though the resistance of the wiring is small, it will still cause a voltage drop. I connected one VM-1 to my lighter, and one right at the amplifier's connections by lengthing the wires going to the VM-1 (you can make these as long as you like without causing any issues or voiding your warranty). With music and subwoofers, I see 0.8V - 1.2V lower at the amplifier. On the dyno I'm seeing 1.6V drop at the amplifier. 1/0 AWG is good, but it ain't that good. I am pretty confident that most people who try this will be very surprised how much voltage drop at the amplifier they have. I challange you to measure yours and post your results. By having multiple units you can check your system like this, and try to correct it by using better distribution/fuses and wiring. If you are wondering, the basic formula for how much more power your amplifier would make with different battery voltage is ((Higher battery voltage / lower battery voltage) ^2 ) x how much power you made at the lower voltage Example, I just dyno'd the T2500.1bdcp in my Jeep. It did 2365 watts into 1 ohm with the battery voltage AT THE AMP at 12.24Vdc. If I could keep 12.6Vdc at the amplifier, the amp should dyno this much power: ((12.6V / 12.24V) ^2 x 2365 watts) This works out to 2506 watts at 12.6V. Rockford rates their power at 14.4V so, clearly this amplifier makes rated power @ 1 ohm and then some. If by some act of God I could keep 13.8V at the amplifier I could get that amp to put out: ((13.8V / 12.24V) ^2 x 2365 watts) This works out to 3006 watts. Now this is only true if you have an amplifier with an unregulated power supply. Some amplifiers, like JL slash series for instance, have fully regulated supplies so this math doesn't apply. Those amplifiers will put out the same power reguardless of the battery voltage within a resonable range. I bought one recently but it has lighter adapter is the white wire remote turn on? I have a NS1 do I hook it to any one of the sets of power/ground? or to a battery in the back closest to the amp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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