conceptM Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 True, a resistor doesn't cost much, but a resistor with a very small variation will cost loads more. An end product using the same design will certainly do the job with both ranges, but there will be some variation in power, sound, durability, ... Sony had good amplifiers: the ES range... Woofer: 12" Phase Linear Aliante Limited Mids & highs: DLS Ultimate 5 1/4" Amp: Audison VRX 6.420 HU: Sony CDX-C90R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AA98hoe Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 For us oldschool guys I remember paying $3dollars a watt.... I say some amps are a lil beter an cost more look at phoenix gold they use gold on there trace etc...and I know dc 12ks have new super fets that are expensive plus the driverboards etc TEAM DC AUDIO VEHICLE:98 chevy tahoe 2wd 3-4 drop HEADUNIT:alpine 9886 PREAMP:arcaudio FRONT STAGE:4-6 1/2s selinium,DD component set and 4-selinium tweeters in each door KICKPANELS:jl audio 5 1/4 REAR DOORS: dd components 6 1/2s HIGHS AMPS:zapco 750.2 on front doors,zapco an another 750.2 on kicks and rear doors SUBS:4-ascendant audio 18s with 5 spiders in a custom box built by KINGSUV SUB AMP: 2-dc7.5s ALTERNATORS: 3-mechmans 1- 425comp, 1-smd spec350, 1-270 with adj voltage harness on custom dc bracket WIRE:10-runs 0g front to back BATTERIES:6-d1400s TL results:157.1 at 38hz and 156.8 at headrest score @37hz. STATE AND NATIONAL RECORD IN MECA S5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHR Ed Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 It's not just the name like stated before, And it's not just a simple component swap like stated before. One factor is production numbers as stated before. It will cost much more per amp to produce 20 amps than it will to produce 2,000. But also, thats only comparing similar amps. For a huge price jump, like going from a $400 amp to a $1000+ amp of the same power range, you have an entirely different design with an entirely different set of components, standards, production numbers, and quality. Take Helix or Audison for example, Their components are not simply beefier versions of what is in cheaper amps, they actually use different types of components, all within a 1% tolerance whereas cheap amps can have a 10-20% tolerance. And instead of basic PCB and standard jumpers, they take the time to engineer the board layout and connections for the least amount of loss possible. They use pure copper and gold plating in their connections. They also utilize control devices to perfectly match and filter input signal. These amps have a great damping factor (ability to control speaker) And a very high signal to noise ratio that you cannot find in cheaper amps. What you pay for is not the name, or higher quality components, what you pay for is the engineering time and attention to detail in production and QC that went into each amp. To ensure its quality and reliability as well as its ability to achieve the purest sound possible. Now non of that matters if you just wanna go "Wang" on some woofers and make them "Hit" Ed Lester ShowtimeSPL Host Showtime Electronics Video MarketingMy old Build Loghttp://www.stevemead...08/#entry511451http://www.youtube.com/showtimespl 5 time dB Drag Finalist Last ride 2007 HHR, current dB 153.5 and bass race 149.4 dB. 153.0 dB on music New Ride, 2008 HHR SS. Build under way. Loudest score ever = 171dB 2009 dB Drag Racing, North American Points Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irpirate Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Now non of that matters if you just wanna go "Wang" on some woofers and make them "Hit" Lmao. I <3 Ed hiiiiiiii2002 4runner - buncha speakers n amps n shit (gone)1994 astro - more stuffzupdate: pretty sure all the pic links in the logs are broken lol. ma slop garb build log16 12's 4th order4runner rebuild in progressclickkk meeeee!!!! 4 18's 6th orderUBL - clickyhttp://www.youtube.com/yyj11589 lots of hater kids here. Pay no attention, they just want 89,000 watt subs for 3.50If you would have put a dc dustcap on it and called it lv your mom, they would all be in love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega5002 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 phhhh...if you think Car Amplifiers are expensive, you should look at Home audio Amplifiers, some of them cost more than cars. But in general, they are pricey cause of good parts, and build quality. 2003 Kia Sorento Team Subsonic LowsTeam Bassin' on a Budget2016 Rebuild Under Construction Best score: 150.2 at 40hz (3k, 2 Custom HDC3 15's) Usaci style(door open, in the kick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PropertyCO Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 As i view it, when you pay high price for a new product, you also have to pay for the research required in making that product, and as the technology gets older, price goes down. So i'd say, high price for some amps (rf amps for example) could be due to the new technology in them. 1997 Ford Ranger 2 - Rockford Fosgate P3 600w 12s 1 - Soundstream Rubicon 1.1000d Pioneer Mids/highs Blacked out tail lights (removable, done with 20% static cling tint) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWBryant Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Hmmm... I see now. It all makes good sense. Basshead-in-Training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conceptM Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Nicely said Ed! That last tag under your name seems correct That's why some brands even have different product lines producing same output figures at quite some differring prices. Woofer: 12" Phase Linear Aliante Limited Mids & highs: DLS Ultimate 5 1/4" Amp: Audison VRX 6.420 HU: Sony CDX-C90R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Sinha Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Also, larger companies like Pioneer can afford to produce things in mass quantity and for cheaper, thus them being able to sell product for cheaper. Smaller companies have to charge more because it costs them more to manufacture. Alpine CDE-164BT/Rockford Fosgate P400X4 Kicker CS 6.5" Components (Front) Kicker 6.5" Composites (Rear) (Running at -10DB for soundstage) RF P400X1 Monoblock 2x Rockford Punch P1 12" 4 OHM SVC running @ 2 OHM in sealed 1" MDF box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddub847 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Also, larger companies like Pioneer can afford to produce things in mass quantity and for cheaper, thus them being able to sell product for cheaper. Smaller companies have to charge more because it costs them more to manufacture. I giggled a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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