purplesyrup Posted July 8, 2013 Report Posted July 8, 2013 Along with everyone leaving out the main factor behind how the sub will respond in the box, the actual port velocity. yea you can build boxes that are too big all day long but if the port velocity was to low then the sub. Will shit itself not far around t he tuning hz
Pierce Barrett Posted July 8, 2013 Author Report Posted July 8, 2013 Did anyone else miss the fact he has two D2 subs? He isn't going to overpower these subs, he is going to underpower them. Unless he want to wire at .5...... I don't plan on wiring it down to .5 ohm since my electrical at this point can't handle it just 1 ohm daily and MAYBE .5 when I'm metering it You cant wire to 1ohm with two D2 subs You can't? I thought if you parallel them to each other the final impedance bridged at the amp would 1 ohm? Educate me lol 2006 Ford F150 4.6 3v (2) Digital Deisgns 3515's D4 Digital Designs M3B w/ Toolmaker Dual Inputs Mike Singer Built 340 Amp Alternator Arc Audio KS 300.4 *mids and highs to come soon* Alpine 148BT And tons of 0 AWG
SnowDrifter Posted July 8, 2013 Report Posted July 8, 2013 6 cubes for 2 12's? why?! thats gigantic! literally needs to be half that size. and thats not a maybe. the woofers wont see 2k. probably like 1500rms, if that even. voltage drop + box rise = never getting rated power out of the amp. Sundown calls for 2.5 spec for a SA 12 so the box designer at my work is taking a gamble to see how it sounds and if it sounds like shit we're going to build a 5 cube box As someone who has ran an sa-12 in a 2.6cuft box, I can tell you that it is too big. 2.25 is about perfect to handle what you are throwing at it IMO. i hate hate absolutely hate this statement. one 2.6 cube box is not the same as another 2.6 cube box Like it or not the SAs aren't big-box woofers like those SQ subs you have ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444
Pierce Barrett Posted July 8, 2013 Author Report Posted July 8, 2013 Along with everyone leaving out the main factor behind how the sub will respond in the box, the actual port velocity. yea you can build boxes that are too big all day long but if the port velocity was to low then the sub. Will shit itself not far around t he tuning hz I learned this the hard way last summer when I 'tried' to build my own box without calculating it correctly. Long story I built a 3.5 cube box with 46.5 inches of port length with the width of the port being 3 inches the whole way through. Woops 2006 Ford F150 4.6 3v (2) Digital Deisgns 3515's D4 Digital Designs M3B w/ Toolmaker Dual Inputs Mike Singer Built 340 Amp Alternator Arc Audio KS 300.4 *mids and highs to come soon* Alpine 148BT And tons of 0 AWG
Jessica Posted July 8, 2013 Report Posted July 8, 2013 That amp isnt bridgeable, its a mono amp. So all parrellel would be .5, or parrellel the coils and series the two sets and it will be 2 ohms. I'm sure someone will post some diagrams. Rest in peace, walled 87 accord build log 03' Corolla build with AA Mayhem inside. My super random youtube channel and terrible camera work. Wiring comparison by CaptainzPlanetz Wire and fuse guide by Guest SyKo13
SnowDrifter Posted July 8, 2013 Report Posted July 8, 2013 Did anyone else miss the fact he has two D2 subs? He isn't going to overpower these subs, he is going to underpower them. Unless he want to wire at .5...... I don't plan on wiring it down to .5 ohm since my electrical at this point can't handle it just 1 ohm daily and MAYBE .5 when I'm metering it You cant wire to 1ohm with two D2 subs You can't? I thought if you parallel them to each other the final impedance bridged at the amp would 1 ohm? Educate me lol If you had a single sub you could. But not with a pair. There is no way you can wire 4, 2 ohm coils to 1 ohm. It isn't possible ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444
IH8PunkRok Posted July 8, 2013 Report Posted July 8, 2013 6 cubes for 2 12's? why?! thats gigantic! literally needs to be half that size. and thats not a maybe. the woofers wont see 2k. probably like 1500rms, if that even. voltage drop + box rise = never getting rated power out of the amp. Sundown calls for 2.5 spec for a SA 12 so the box designer at my work is taking a gamble to see how it sounds and if it sounds like shit we're going to build a 5 cube box As someone who has ran an sa-12 in a 2.6cuft box, I can tell you that it is too big. 2.25 is about perfect to handle what you are throwing at it IMO. i hate hate absolutely hate this statement. one 2.6 cube box is not the same as another 2.6 cube box Like it or not the SAs aren't big-box woofers like those SQ subs you have what makes a big-box woofer? I'd like to know -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build
Pierce Barrett Posted July 8, 2013 Author Report Posted July 8, 2013 That amp isnt bridgeable, its a mono amp. So all parrellel would be .5, or parrellel the coils and series the two sets and it will be 2 ohms. I'm sure someone will post some diagrams. Gotcha 2006 Ford F150 4.6 3v (2) Digital Deisgns 3515's D4 Digital Designs M3B w/ Toolmaker Dual Inputs Mike Singer Built 340 Amp Alternator Arc Audio KS 300.4 *mids and highs to come soon* Alpine 148BT And tons of 0 AWG
SnowDrifter Posted July 8, 2013 Report Posted July 8, 2013 6 cubes for 2 12's? why?! thats gigantic! literally needs to be half that size. and thats not a maybe. the woofers wont see 2k. probably like 1500rms, if that even. voltage drop + box rise = never getting rated power out of the amp. Sundown calls for 2.5 spec for a SA 12 so the box designer at my work is taking a gamble to see how it sounds and if it sounds like shit we're going to build a 5 cube box As someone who has ran an sa-12 in a 2.6cuft box, I can tell you that it is too big. 2.25 is about perfect to handle what you are throwing at it IMO. i hate hate absolutely hate this statement. one 2.6 cube box is not the same as another 2.6 cube box Like it or not the SAs aren't big-box woofers like those SQ subs you have what makes a big-box woofer? I'd like to know Suspension stiffness, cone weight, effective cone area, motor force, suspension and coil travel, etc. ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444
Pierce Barrett Posted July 8, 2013 Author Report Posted July 8, 2013 So in theory the final load on the amp will be 2 ohm and realistically the amp will only be doing 1100 watts? 2006 Ford F150 4.6 3v (2) Digital Deisgns 3515's D4 Digital Designs M3B w/ Toolmaker Dual Inputs Mike Singer Built 340 Amp Alternator Arc Audio KS 300.4 *mids and highs to come soon* Alpine 148BT And tons of 0 AWG
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