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Okay so I have a question here for someone smarter than myself, which could be anyone.

It is probably a stupid question, with a blatantly obvious answer. But here it is anyway.

Question:
What would happen if a person tried to use a passive radiator in a bandpass enclosure?
Like for example, a 4th order for 4 - 15's, but only use 2 - 15's and 2 passive radiators?

Is this something that has been tried? Or is it a stupid idea that would never ever work?


Please discuss!


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Like using real passive radiators or just two subs not hooked up?

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I gotcha. Do they make passive radiators that would handle a lot power? (not directly obviously but just withstand more air movement)

Maybe they make radiators that are specifically geared towards 4ths.

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Posted

the radiators are not really powered though. there is no motoro and coil to drive. intersting thought not sure what would happen.

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Posted

You'd want 4 passive radiators for 2 15s. Rule of thumb is you want the PRs to have double the cone area of the original driver.

As for how kt would behave: I'd guess similar to a 6th

Posted

I am not sure this would work in a bandpass situation. The pressure might rip the hell out of it. Plus not sure if this is correct but the speaker will be pushing the radiator out but the force from the bandpass would be pushing it back in. Cancellation?

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You'd want 4 passive radiators for 2 15s. Rule of thumb is you want the PRs to have double the cone area of the original driver.

As for how kt would behave: I'd guess similar to a 6th

Oh yeah, I forgot about that, would need 4 PR's for 2 subs. Damn.

I could have sworn that I seen this somewhere, a 1:1 PR setup. But probably not.

I am not sure this would work in a bandpass situation. The pressure might rip the hell out of it. Plus not sure if this is correct but the speaker will be pushing the radiator out but the force from the bandpass would be pushing it back in. Cancellation?

That's a good question. But if that's the case then how would it not happen in normal 4th orders? (cancellation)

I'm probably just not thinking right.

But honestly I still have a lot to learn, about bandpass and about passive radiators. And car audio in general for that matter.


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