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Crossover overheated and broke, Why? *pics*


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Ran the DMM across some speakers and I *think* I fried some voice coils on some mids and highs.

2 tweets and 1 6.5"

sucks

2007 Chevy Tahoe (SOLD)

12 ~ FI Audio X series 10" w/BP option

2 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @0.67

3 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @1.0 

2 ~ PPI 3 way sets (not installed yet)

1 ~ RF T400-4, 1 ~ RF T600-2, 1 ~ RF T600-4

4 ~ CT Sounds 5.25" Strato comps  (rear fill only)

1 ~ XS Power D4800

1 ~ XS Power D3400

8 ~ XS Power XP3000

160 stock alt, Mechman 370 Elite, 185 DC Power

320+ Sq. Ft. Sound Deadener

Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/knfjdkghjudfhsgkjdhf/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0

Posted

The white blocks are 10-25W power resistors. They can take a beating.

If it were a freak failure then you wouldn't have melted plastic.

That's a sign of excessive heat.

I don't see any discoloration which would be a sign of long term overheating.

That cracking appears stress related.

My guess would be that the resistor was overpowered recently.

Either the crossover was overpowered (unlikely) or your amp started failing with some DC bias to the speaker outputs.

Connect your DMM on that amp output and set it to DC volts.

Play a test tone at moderate to high volume (don't have any speakers connected).

See if the DMM registers a significant DC voltage level.

Depending on your crossover, I would expect it to be able to filter any DC signals so your speakers wouldn't get hurt but it sounds like they may have.

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1 - XS Power D375

500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F)
iPadMini2

Dash mounted O-scope
Audison bitOne (Remote DRC MP)
Highs Amp - PPI Art A404
Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...)
DC Audio DC9.0K
2- DC Audio XL12m2

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OUTLAW         - 150.2dB @ 45Hz

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Posted

The white blocks are 10-25W power resistors. They can take a beating.

If it were a freak failure then you wouldn't have melted plastic.

That's a sign of excessive heat.

I don't see any discoloration which would be a sign of long term overheating.

That cracking appears stress related.

My guess would be that the resistor was overpowered recently.

Either the crossover was overpowered (unlikely) or your amp started failing with some DC bias to the speaker outputs.

Connect your DMM on that amp output and set it to DC volts.

Play a test tone at moderate to high volume (don't have any speakers connected).

See if the DMM registers a significant DC voltage level.

Depending on your crossover, I would expect it to be able to filter any DC signals so your speakers wouldn't get hurt but it sounds like they may have.

What would a significant DC level be? What number would I be looking for and what number wouls be out of place?

2007 Chevy Tahoe (SOLD)

12 ~ FI Audio X series 10" w/BP option

2 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @0.67

3 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @1.0 

2 ~ PPI 3 way sets (not installed yet)

1 ~ RF T400-4, 1 ~ RF T600-2, 1 ~ RF T600-4

4 ~ CT Sounds 5.25" Strato comps  (rear fill only)

1 ~ XS Power D4800

1 ~ XS Power D3400

8 ~ XS Power XP3000

160 stock alt, Mechman 370 Elite, 185 DC Power

320+ Sq. Ft. Sound Deadener

Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/knfjdkghjudfhsgkjdhf/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0

Posted

Ran the DMM across some speakers and I *think* I fried some voice coils on some mids and highs.

2 tweets and 1 6.5"

sucks

Check whatever crossover that other tweet was hooked up to also.

 

F150:

Stock :(

 

2019 Harley Road Glide:

Amp: TM400Xad - 4 channel 400 watt

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Fairing (Front) 6.5s -MMats PA601cx

Lid (Rear) 6x9s -  TMS69

 

Posted

The white blocks are 10-25W power resistors. They can take a beating.

If it were a freak failure then you wouldn't have melted plastic.

That's a sign of excessive heat.

I don't see any discoloration which would be a sign of long term overheating.

That cracking appears stress related.

My guess would be that the resistor was overpowered recently.

Either the crossover was overpowered (unlikely) or your amp started failing with some DC bias to the speaker outputs.

Connect your DMM on that amp output and set it to DC volts.

Play a test tone at moderate to high volume (don't have any speakers connected).

See if the DMM registers a significant DC voltage level.

Depending on your crossover, I would expect it to be able to filter any DC signals so your speakers wouldn't get hurt but it sounds like they may have.

What would a significant DC level be? What number would I be looking for and what number wouls be out of place?

If the meter is staying in the milli-volt range then its probably fine.

You're looking for something in the volt range (over 1V).

Your amp is basically a frequency variant AC inverter. It converts DC to AC so you should be seeing absolutely no DC bias from the outputs at all.

Speaker voice coils are dead short circuits at DC so its imperative that your amp has no DC bias on the outputs.

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2004 BMW M3
Mechman 280A
2 - XS Power XP3000

1 - XS Power D375

500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F)
iPadMini2

Dash mounted O-scope
Audison bitOne (Remote DRC MP)
Highs Amp - PPI Art A404
Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...)
DC Audio DC9.0K
2- DC Audio XL12m2

LEGAL             - 147.3dB @ 41Hz
OUTLAW         - 150.2dB @ 45Hz

OUTLAW         - 145.7dB @ 30Hz
JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER

2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER

SOTM BUILD:
http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026

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Posted

Gotcha, will do some testing when I have time. Thanks so much for the interest guys!

2007 Chevy Tahoe (SOLD)

12 ~ FI Audio X series 10" w/BP option

2 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @0.67

3 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @1.0 

2 ~ PPI 3 way sets (not installed yet)

1 ~ RF T400-4, 1 ~ RF T600-2, 1 ~ RF T600-4

4 ~ CT Sounds 5.25" Strato comps  (rear fill only)

1 ~ XS Power D4800

1 ~ XS Power D3400

8 ~ XS Power XP3000

160 stock alt, Mechman 370 Elite, 185 DC Power

320+ Sq. Ft. Sound Deadener

Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/knfjdkghjudfhsgkjdhf/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0

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