Karkov Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Posted September 22, 2013 Ran the DMM across some speakers and I *think* I fried some voice coils on some mids and highs. 2 tweets and 1 6.5" sucks 2007 Chevy Tahoe (SOLD) 12 ~ FI Audio X series 10" w/BP option 2 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @0.67 3 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @1.0 2 ~ PPI 3 way sets (not installed yet) 1 ~ RF T400-4, 1 ~ RF T600-2, 1 ~ RF T600-4 4 ~ CT Sounds 5.25" Strato comps (rear fill only) 1 ~ XS Power D4800 1 ~ XS Power D3400 8 ~ XS Power XP3000 160 stock alt, Mechman 370 Elite, 185 DC Power 320+ Sq. Ft. Sound Deadener Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/knfjdkghjudfhsgkjdhf/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0
Wicks Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 The white blocks are 10-25W power resistors. They can take a beating. If it were a freak failure then you wouldn't have melted plastic. That's a sign of excessive heat. I don't see any discoloration which would be a sign of long term overheating. That cracking appears stress related. My guess would be that the resistor was overpowered recently. Either the crossover was overpowered (unlikely) or your amp started failing with some DC bias to the speaker outputs. Connect your DMM on that amp output and set it to DC volts. Play a test tone at moderate to high volume (don't have any speakers connected). See if the DMM registers a significant DC voltage level. Depending on your crossover, I would expect it to be able to filter any DC signals so your speakers wouldn't get hurt but it sounds like they may have. This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026
Karkov Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Posted September 23, 2013 The white blocks are 10-25W power resistors. They can take a beating. If it were a freak failure then you wouldn't have melted plastic. That's a sign of excessive heat. I don't see any discoloration which would be a sign of long term overheating. That cracking appears stress related. My guess would be that the resistor was overpowered recently. Either the crossover was overpowered (unlikely) or your amp started failing with some DC bias to the speaker outputs. Connect your DMM on that amp output and set it to DC volts. Play a test tone at moderate to high volume (don't have any speakers connected). See if the DMM registers a significant DC voltage level. Depending on your crossover, I would expect it to be able to filter any DC signals so your speakers wouldn't get hurt but it sounds like they may have. What would a significant DC level be? What number would I be looking for and what number wouls be out of place? 2007 Chevy Tahoe (SOLD) 12 ~ FI Audio X series 10" w/BP option 2 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @0.67 3 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @1.0 2 ~ PPI 3 way sets (not installed yet) 1 ~ RF T400-4, 1 ~ RF T600-2, 1 ~ RF T600-4 4 ~ CT Sounds 5.25" Strato comps (rear fill only) 1 ~ XS Power D4800 1 ~ XS Power D3400 8 ~ XS Power XP3000 160 stock alt, Mechman 370 Elite, 185 DC Power 320+ Sq. Ft. Sound Deadener Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/knfjdkghjudfhsgkjdhf/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0
MrSkippyJ Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 Ran the DMM across some speakers and I *think* I fried some voice coils on some mids and highs. 2 tweets and 1 6.5" sucks Check whatever crossover that other tweet was hooked up to also. F150: Stock 2019 Harley Road Glide: Amp: TM400Xad - 4 channel 400 watt Processor: DSR1 Fairing (Front) 6.5s -MMats PA601cx Lid (Rear) 6x9s - TMS69
Wicks Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 The white blocks are 10-25W power resistors. They can take a beating. If it were a freak failure then you wouldn't have melted plastic. That's a sign of excessive heat. I don't see any discoloration which would be a sign of long term overheating. That cracking appears stress related. My guess would be that the resistor was overpowered recently. Either the crossover was overpowered (unlikely) or your amp started failing with some DC bias to the speaker outputs. Connect your DMM on that amp output and set it to DC volts. Play a test tone at moderate to high volume (don't have any speakers connected). See if the DMM registers a significant DC voltage level. Depending on your crossover, I would expect it to be able to filter any DC signals so your speakers wouldn't get hurt but it sounds like they may have. What would a significant DC level be? What number would I be looking for and what number wouls be out of place? If the meter is staying in the milli-volt range then its probably fine. You're looking for something in the volt range (over 1V). Your amp is basically a frequency variant AC inverter. It converts DC to AC so you should be seeing absolutely no DC bias from the outputs at all. Speaker voice coils are dead short circuits at DC so its imperative that your amp has no DC bias on the outputs. This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026
Karkov Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Posted September 23, 2013 Gotcha, will do some testing when I have time. Thanks so much for the interest guys! 2007 Chevy Tahoe (SOLD) 12 ~ FI Audio X series 10" w/BP option 2 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @0.67 3 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @1.0 2 ~ PPI 3 way sets (not installed yet) 1 ~ RF T400-4, 1 ~ RF T600-2, 1 ~ RF T600-4 4 ~ CT Sounds 5.25" Strato comps (rear fill only) 1 ~ XS Power D4800 1 ~ XS Power D3400 8 ~ XS Power XP3000 160 stock alt, Mechman 370 Elite, 185 DC Power 320+ Sq. Ft. Sound Deadener Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/knfjdkghjudfhsgkjdhf/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0
_paralyzed_ Posted September 24, 2013 Report Posted September 24, 2013 Ouch man, those are some spendy components to fry. Now you have time to work on my system!
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