g2shuck Posted December 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Right the gsme was to peak your box at the same freq as your vehicles res freq.it.only had to play that one freq too. There.is no way I could ever consider anything over 20 sq in of port per cube for musical use. Even that scares me. My limit is really 17 to 18 for woofers that willplay music . I will be between 19-20 inches per foot with 250 square inches and 13 cubes net. Sound ok? Quote 2000 Toyota Camry With Sealed Off Trunk Sky High OFC Wiring DC Power 270 XP Alt AQ 2200 Sub Amp Two DC Level 4 m2 12s 80 Mil Murdetmat Gathering Parts For Wall Build. Team DC Audio 2014 Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 For me no. But its not my money. Quote THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I wish I was able to test this out without it being super expensive. I just don't see how the calculator is correct. I entered in 2 12's and 40 mm xmax with 38 hz tuning and its telling me a minimum of 166.54 sq in of port. There's no way 2 12's need that much port.40 MM of Xmax is seriously hefty.And like N8 and myself said, you can surely get away with less in a vehicle cabin. Every vehicle is different and how much less depends on more factors than one. And it's not super expensive to test. Build two or three boxes, that's just a couple sheets of wood for a couple of 12s. True, 40 is a lot. I think as long as I don't hear port noise then I'm in the clear. Hell I have the subs in a crappy prefab right now in a 3.6 cu ft enclosure with 45 sq in of port and theres no port noise. Quote DD M4 Rockford Fosgate P500-4 SoundQubed HDC415 w carbon fiber cap 2 Rockford Fosagate T1675-S XS Power D3400 Under Hood XS Power D5100 in rear Michael Singer 200A Alt Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/153901-2012-veloster-update-842013-wall-build-4-15s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g2shuck Posted December 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 How the hell can I make an interchangble port if the port is 3 common walls lol. Then I could test both 250 sqaure inches and the 15 inches per foot on my TL. Quote 2000 Toyota Camry With Sealed Off Trunk Sky High OFC Wiring DC Power 270 XP Alt AQ 2200 Sub Amp Two DC Level 4 m2 12s 80 Mil Murdetmat Gathering Parts For Wall Build. Team DC Audio 2014 Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 ive been hearing talk of this bigger port everywhere. im wanting to see results from people who have done this. also i would think it loses musicallity due to less control of cone. a stiffer suspension is needed maybe? Quote Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souldrop Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I hate saying this but its.all install dependent. I used to hang and know alot of hardcore spl guys. Like guys who had boxes stacked in their garage that they could pull out and show you the writing on the top of the specs and what score it did at what freq. Power didnt matter because they were overdriving their woofers anyways. Alot of street a b and c boxes that were done with one battery as well. Alot of ugly 2x4s in the ports extra baffles etc. They could range from a couple thousand watts to about 5k in most cases. Small time for us now but at that point it was big time. Alot of what theyd see was larger ports loss of cone control. Extremely peaky boxes and more woofers that went poof. I could definitely see this being an issue. I'm not sure if Small's formula takes into account the damping factor of the enclosure. he was after reducing port velocity. Quote 1997 Lexus ES300 HU - Pioneer MVH 7350 Processor - Helix DSP Front Stage - JBL P660C Mid/high amp - Alpine PDX-F4 Subs - 1 IA Death Penalty 12 Sub Amp - Cactus Sounds PF300.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanSierra Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) I wonder if that is why companies like DD and SQ recommend port on the higher side? Stiffer suspensions and high Xmax. Btw, I'm glad N8 and others are chiming in. I know he's been around a lot and has(and knows people) seen a lot for good real world experience. Edited December 2, 2013 by CleanSierra Quote Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I wonder if that is why companies like DD and SQ recommend port on the higher side? Stiffer suspensions and high Xmax. i think so. the bigger the port with dd the louder i have gotten. Quote Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 ive been hearing talk of this bigger port everywhere. im wanting to see results from people who have done this. also i would think it loses musicallity due to less control of cone. a stiffer suspension is needed maybe? Exactly. Its the new cool thing to.do Quote THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) ive been hearing talk of this bigger port everywhere. im wanting to see results from people who have done this. also i would think it loses musicallity due to less control of cone. a stiffer suspension is needed maybe? Exactly. Its the new cool thing to.do just like ct sounds and mmats i remember skar a year ago...\ edit: not talking crap about any of the companies. just every year there is this new company that everyone wants to run, good or bad. mmats and ct sounds are legit or at least so far from all tests ive seen Edited December 2, 2013 by Bump4life Quote Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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