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i have a double pistol grip shortened barrel extended mag Shotty and a big 90lb boxer who gives the grrr any time someone pulls into my drive way. not to mention the led pipe tucked into the corner of my fence. i think I'm alright if anything happens at my house. as far as my car i have a big ole flashlight with 6 DD batteries in it. which last time i checked is perfectly lethal ah i meant legal!

so you have a shotgun that should be classified as an aow and in ny no less. You got the 200 dollar tax stamp to go with that?

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haha, maybe.. maybe not. I've had for years bought legal. i also have 2 pairs of flood lights one on each corner of my house. so family is safe. plus i live in the boonies. but below the waste isn't considered attempted man slaughter. I'm confident between the lights coming on as soon as they approach my car then a door opening and a big bad dog trying to get threw the fence they'd cut there losses and run. besides I'd leave the shoty in with my wife just I'm case. she can take it apart clean it load and she's not a bad shot.... but with bird shots who has to be.

yes the gun is locked and put in a safe place, NO MY CHILD CAN NOT GET TO IT!

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I'll tell you right now. If you don't have the tax stamp to classify it as an aow and you have the forward grip on it you are in possession of an illegal firearm. If the barrel is less than 18.5 inches long it's another strike. It may have been bought legally but what may or may not have been done after purchase is where you can get in a shit load of trouble.

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n8 and his knowledge of firearms is just amazing.

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as long as their back isn't facing you and its in the dark its legal to take a shot in protection of yourself and family. I don't exactly suggest it but you never know if the thief in the shadow has a gun or not. yell at him and he might just fire at you. of course if your going to take a shot at least make sure its an intruder and not a family member.

if I was certain there wasn't a chance of it being a family member I would shot them in their knee as a warning shot, non fetal but still affective.

Totally not trying to get into a gun debate so this will be the last post I make in this thread but here in MN maybe the laws are different because you cannot shoot under those circumstances. You have to have tried running away and basically exhausted every option to not be in a life and death situation before you fire a weapon at someone. There has to be absolutely no other options for your safety except firing your weapon before you fire it. Then whether it was right or wrong you will go to jail until the investigation is done. There is a LOT more to it than that.

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It varies by state. And by case to be honest. Either way you're getting put through the ringer for defending yourself and property

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pretty sure the barrel is 20inches long. If guns commit crimes mine must be broken! and i heard about all that got to register my gun and stuff. from what I've heard it will be the biggest act of disobedience America has seen in a long long time.

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No you don't get it. It has nothing to do with registering your weapons. This is an atf mandate for a class 3 weapon. It covers suppressors full autos and aows. Things like the serbu super shorty shotguns. If you have a pistol grip shotgun with no buttstock so it's basically in a pistol Configuration and a forward grip on the pump it's an aow and you need to go through the atf process. I'm trying to get through to you that it's a felony. It's also easily avoidable.

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it's just funny to me. a guy with not even a speeding ticket can be a felon because of something he bought legally!

shotgun? what shotgun? because of your bang up job with the economy i had to sell it. receipt? let me look...

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I know you think you're slick and witty but you're really not.

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