pa-pa-platypus Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 hook up your front battery.. then the back.. i've always done ground first and never had a problem.. what you're doing here is isolating things if the fuse still pops without the amps being hooked up then something is backwards or shorting out on your wire to your back battery This isn't teeball. YOU DO NOT GET A TROPHY JUST BECAUSE YOU SHOW UP. Put the work in and then maybe get the respect when it has been earned 151.6 with single 12 at 41 hz 153.2 with 2 12's at 43 hz power: dd m4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YukonDCXL Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 My amps do not have fuses on them so I put a fuse in between back battery and amps, but if your amps have fuses you can probably do it either way. the diagram I drew tho does have a fuse... look again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manong Mark Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 ahh apologies. i did see that. yeah both my amps both have fuses. the four channel has 3 and so does my sub amp i think (hifonics zeus amps if i didnt mention that already. side note, for the price. these are awesome.) OKAY so i tried to hook up the batteries. and JUST the batteries....no blownage (fuse wise that is)...everything was fine. now one of my guys suggested that its one of my amps thats either bad or creating the short. and i said the amps both work...and if they didnt, they wouldnt power on. not to mention the fuses on the amp arent blown. if i had shorted the amp during my attempts to connect everything, i wouldve blown the fuses before destroying the amp...along with the fuse that i have coming from the positive term of the back battery. all im blowing are those fuses and not the fuses on the amp. and its only after that fuse. to better illustrate....here is a diagram (thanks yukon for doing this kind of diagram...makes things easy i suppose)... back battery----- [+] --------dual anl fused power distrib----------- positive of first amp [side post + of optima]----------anl fuse 250a (all my fuses are 250a)--------front [+] second outpout of power distrib------------positive of second amp [-] ---------dual anl fused power distrib for neg ------------negative of first amp --second output of power distrib for neg-----------------negative of second amp [side post - of optima]---------- body ground im blowing fuses on the power side of the top terminals. to the amp. im thinking a frayed wire somewhere or something is touching. or maybe do you guys think i did a bad job soldering the rings to the wires? maybe i should try a different ground from the battery? has drawn out, i have the negative side for both amps going to the negative side of the battery. should i ground the amps to the body instead of the battery? maybe take out the fuses and just use straight line? i just ordered a meter and it should be coming in a few days (thank god for amazon prime). but it seems like this issue is as simple as following my lines....do any of you have your amps connected directly to the battery from the negative side as well? apologies if yall are pullin yer hair out at this topic right now haha...but your opinions and suggestions are definitely appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImaNoob Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 You might have mentioned but do you have photos of under the hood, solder job, and connections to amps ? 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 Xs3400 1500BDCP FI BL 12 3sq @ 32hz Rockford t675 T400.2 Stinger Deadner Build Log Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParDeus Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Any chance your distribution blocks are screwed to the body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manong Mark Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 You might have mentioned but do you have photos of under the hood, solder job, and connections to amps ? i dont. ill see if i take some after work... Any chance your distribution blocks are screwed to the body? my blocks are not screwed to the body. they are screwed to the floor board in the trunk. you think the screws that hold them down could be the culprit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 It's very possible that your blocks could be shorting out. That's a good suggestion. You have a short somewhere. It's the fun part of finding it THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pioneerforlife Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 same thing happened to my friend before and turns out he had the wires going into the amps swapped. did you make sure the positive is going to the positive terminal on the amps and the negative is going to the negative terminal? 2007 Ford Focus SES Hatchback Pioneer HU 4 Digital Designs 9515i's in a B pillar. 2 Soundstream XXX 15K's (running at 16 volts) Soundstream Mids/Highs in custom door panels (getting rebuilt soon) Soundstream TA2.160 and TA2.400 Sky High and KNU wiring 3 Banks of Maxwell caps Winston Lithium (not a fan) Bump4Life 250 Amp Alt. aka USAlternators Soundstream Focus and Avenger Build Log Instagram @p4linnovation YouTube: Team Blowin Loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa-pa-platypus Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 yeah try taking the block and unscrewing it from anything (maybe sit it on a piece wood or something that you know it won't short out on) then hook everything up and see what happens thats why i said hook the batteries up and see what happens the best way to find a solution to most things is to isolate pieces of the equations and work through them one at a time to find the culprit of the problem This isn't teeball. YOU DO NOT GET A TROPHY JUST BECAUSE YOU SHOW UP. Put the work in and then maybe get the respect when it has been earned 151.6 with single 12 at 41 hz 153.2 with 2 12's at 43 hz power: dd m4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YukonDCXL Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 ahh apologies. i did see that. yeah both my amps both have fuses. the four channel has 3 and so does my sub amp i think (hifonics zeus amps if i didnt mention that already. side note, for the price. these are awesome.) OKAY so i tried to hook up the batteries. and JUST the batteries....no blownage (fuse wise that is)...everything was fine. now one of my guys suggested that its one of my amps thats either bad or creating the short. and i said the amps both work...and if they didnt, they wouldnt power on. not to mention the fuses on the amp arent blown. if i had shorted the amp during my attempts to connect everything, i wouldve blown the fuses before destroying the amp...along with the fuse that i have coming from the positive term of the back battery. all im blowing are those fuses and not the fuses on the amp. and its only after that fuse. to better illustrate....here is a diagram (thanks yukon for doing this kind of diagram...makes things easy i suppose)... back battery----- [+] --------dual anl fused power distrib----------- positive of first amp [side post + of optima]----------anl fuse 250a (all my fuses are 250a)--------front [+] second outpout of power distrib------------positive of second amp [-] ---------dual anl fused power distrib for neg ------------negative of first amp --second output of power distrib for neg-----------------negative of second amp [side post - of optima]---------- body ground im blowing fuses on the power side of the top terminals. to the amp. im thinking a frayed wire somewhere or something is touching. or maybe do you guys think i did a bad job soldering the rings to the wires? maybe i should try a different ground from the battery? has drawn out, i have the negative side for both amps going to the negative side of the battery. should i ground the amps to the body instead of the battery? maybe take out the fuses and just use straight line? i just ordered a meter and it should be coming in a few days (thank god for amazon prime). but it seems like this issue is as simple as following my lines....do any of you have your amps connected directly to the battery from the negative side as well? apologies if yall are pullin yer hair out at this topic right now haha...but your opinions and suggestions are definitely appreciated I ground my amps to my battery, no need in grounding to the frame unless it is just easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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