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Hey people. Okey I need some advice. I wanna know if I should upgrade as stated above and to what extent to get the most out of my setup.. I am powering a DD9515 (2 x 1 ohm) with a Sundown saz-3500d set @ 2ohms. It is in a 5.5 cubic foot box tuned to 38hz with a 10 inch pvc port. I am driving a VW Polo which came with stock 4 gauge wiring from the stock 90A alternator to battery and stuff. I am also using a 4 gauge power cable with an 80 amp fuse on it. Oh and a big non-maintenance battery. Now question is how far can I upgrade without having to change my alternator to get full potential of my setup.. Help me!!

Vw Polo

Pioneer Deh-6050UB

Sundown Saz-3500d

DD Audio 9500 15''

5.5 cubic feet box with 10 inch port @ 38hz

I live to hear the Bass drop!!!

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Like it was said in your other thread. Upgrade to 1/0 do the big 3, and put an AGM battery under the hood and an extra one in the back.

Oho ok thanks a lot. I already have an AGM Battery infront so will just have to get one for the back and do the upgrade. Hey do you think my alternator will have stress charging both batteries at once??

Vw Polo

Pioneer Deh-6050UB

Sundown Saz-3500d

DD Audio 9500 15''

5.5 cubic feet box with 10 inch port @ 38hz

I live to hear the Bass drop!!!

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Well for starters, before you worry about upgrading your alternator or even thinking of doing so, you should get a quality piece of ofc 1/0 power cable to run your saz-3500 before you blow it to shreds and back using an amp that can potential pull over 350 amps of current through the 4gauge wire your currently using. Dont matter if your only running the amp at 2 ohms or not, your ghetto rigging high price gear together to make it work and that's just not right.

 

 

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Like it was said in your other thread. Upgrade to 1/0 do the big 3, and put an AGM battery under the hood and an extra one in the back.

Oho ok thanks a lot. I already have an AGM Battery infront so will just have to get one for the back and do the upgrade. Hey do you think my alternator will have stress charging both batteries at once??

It should be ok as long as you put them in charged and put them on a charger frequently so they stay healthy

Well for starters, before you worry about upgrading your alternator or even thinking of doing so, you should get a quality piece of ofc 1/0 power cable to run your saz-3500 before you blow it to shreds and back using an amp that can potential pull over 350 amps of current through the 4gauge wire your currently using. Dont matter if your only running the amp at 2 ohms or not, your ghetto rigging high price gear together to make it work and that's just not right.

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Well for starters, before you worry about upgrading your alternator or even thinking of doing so, you should get a quality piece of ofc 1/0 power cable to run your saz-3500 before you blow it to shreds and back using an amp that can potential pull over 350 amps of current through the 4gauge wire your currently using. Dont matter if your only running the amp at 2 ohms or not, your ghetto rigging high price gear together to make it work and that's just not right.

Ok thanks a lot for the info. So tell me something, will the amp be able to still receive 350amps with a stock 90 amp alternator and the two batteries even with the 0 gauge??

Vw Polo

Pioneer Deh-6050UB

Sundown Saz-3500d

DD Audio 9500 15''

5.5 cubic feet box with 10 inch port @ 38hz

I live to hear the Bass drop!!!

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Well for starters, before you worry about upgrading your alternator or even thinking of doing so, you should get a quality piece of ofc 1/0 power cable to run your saz-3500 before you blow it to shreds and back using an amp that can potential pull over 350 amps of current through the 4gauge wire your currently using. Dont matter if your only running the amp at 2 ohms or not, your ghetto rigging high price gear together to make it work and that's just not right.

you are half right and yet so wrong,

yes that amp can pull 350a but no way is that ever going to happen at 2ohm

if you buy a 10k@ 1ohm amp and run it a 4ohm, does it require the elec of of a 10k amp or a 3k draw

bevcause

2x h/o alts, 6x runs of 0g to amp 2x run front to back and 4 extra batts as a min, for a 10,000rms 1000amp draw

witch isn't required for 300a of current draw

3k only requires 1x h/o alt 1x 0grun to amp 1x 0g run front to back and 1 extra batt

in the end he max current draw is restricted to 1.8-2k rms

all he need is an elec system to support 200amp

witch 0g occ cable can do (ofc not needed but is recommend)

1 extra batt in rear

0g big 3

bigger alt (not necessary to be a h/o 240a+ just bigger then 90a you have now)

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Well for starters, before you worry about upgrading your alternator or even thinking of doing so, you should get a quality piece of ofc 1/0 power cable to run your saz-3500 before you blow it to shreds and back using an amp that can potential pull over 350 amps of current through the 4gauge wire your currently using. Dont matter if your only running the amp at 2 ohms or not, your ghetto rigging high price gear together to make it work and that's just not right.

you are half right and yet so wrong,

yes that amp can pull 350a but no way is that ever going to happen at 2ohm

if you buy a 10k@ 1ohm amp and run it a 4ohm, does it require the elec of of a 10k amp or a 3k draw

bevcause

2x h/o alts, 6x runs of 0g to amp 2x run front to back and 4 extra batts as a min, for a 10,000rms 1000amp draw

witch isn't required for 300a of current draw

3k only requires 1x h/o alt 1x 0grun to amp 1x 0g run front to back and 1 extra batt

in the end he max current draw is restricted to 1.8-2k rms

all he need is an elec system to support 200amp

witch 0g occ cable can do (ofc not needed but is recommend)

1 extra batt in rear

0g big 3

bigger alt (not necessary to be a h/o 240a+ just bigger then 90a you have now)

Great info bro. You have opened up my eyes properly now :) So just based on a ruff estimate, what amps would I be able to get with all that done bt without the h/o alternator???

Vw Polo

Pioneer Deh-6050UB

Sundown Saz-3500d

DD Audio 9500 15''

5.5 cubic feet box with 10 inch port @ 38hz

I live to hear the Bass drop!!!

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Have you even checked your voltage drop at the amp?

switch all your wiring to 0gauge ofc being the better choice hands down.

do big 3 in 0gauge

1. Alt + to battery +

2. Alt case to frame or battery -

3. Battery - to frame

check voltage at amp again. If dropping below 12.5-12.8 (some people don't mind dropping down to battery voltage personally I would say try to keep it above 13v) then get an ho alt or battery for the rear. Ho alt being better.

what batt do you have up front? Like brand and size

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Have you even checked your voltage drop at the amp?

switch all your wiring to 0gauge ofc being the better choice hands down.

do big 3 in 0gauge

1. Alt + to battery +

2. Alt case to frame or battery -

3. Battery - to frame

check voltage at amp again. If dropping below 12.5-12.8 (some people don't mind dropping down to battery voltage personally I would say try to keep it above 13v) then get an ho alt or battery for the rear. Ho alt being better.

what batt do you have up front? Like brand and size

It's a Hi-fase battery and the size is 640. Not too sure the mA, It is a big non-maintenance battery though. Ok so where do I connect the multimeter to check voltage drop?? And how can I test how many amps the battery is??

Vw Polo

Pioneer Deh-6050UB

Sundown Saz-3500d

DD Audio 9500 15''

5.5 cubic feet box with 10 inch port @ 38hz

I live to hear the Bass drop!!!

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