inverted sealed 8"

[Broke_Audio_Addict]

This gets way past what people use for builds. You have to have the exact right port placement as the port will always radiate with the same frequency and it's resonances. While you do not get that in sealed and get a pure single wave.

I personally haven't heard any ported enclosure that I feel as being up to par with sealed and other types of enclosures for sound quality. I believe this to be the same with any other enclosure with wave manipulation to increase output at any frequency.

There are plenty of very high-end systems that use ported enclosures. For a mere $10K you can have these:

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/Speakers/Home_Audio/800_Series_Diamond/803-Diamond.html

Now I know there are a world of differences between those I linked and what we put in our cars, but the concepts are still the same. If sealed was so technically superior you wouldn't see them so widely used. The fact that both ported and sealed (and other configurations) all are being used so widely demonstrates that each has its merits and can perform well if executed properly.

Each enclosure has its job, I just don't prefer MOST ported systems for music.

The main reason is because ports are a hazard to work with and everything affects them away from your calculations then to find one that is correct costs a pretty penny.

I know you have done very well with your systems you have built, but for me to accept ported for music will take some effort. This mostly comes from my very very scientific view upon music. So much in fact I will never recommend a tube amp as it alters the input wave in ways more than just the amplitude without choice to the user.

But a tube amp and some vinyl just sounds so sexy.

Thing is sound quality is a matter of opinion, what you like chances are a lot of others dont.

[Triticum Agricolam]

Each enclosure has its job, I just don't prefer MOST ported systems for music.

The main reason is because ports are a hazard to work with and everything affects them away from your calculations then to find one that is correct costs a pretty penny.

I know you have done very well with your systems you have built, but for me to accept ported for music will take some effort. This mostly comes from my very very scientific view upon music. So much in fact I will never recommend a tube amp as it alters the input wave in ways more than just the amplitude without choice to the user.

I getcha, I'm just giving you a hard time. My biggest gripe against sealed systems (outside of car audio) is to get flat response you have to rely on EQ to boost low the end. You end up needing a lot more driver excursion to get the same SPL and more excursion generally = more distortion.

Since we are now totally off-topic, have you every played around with any speakers using full-range drivers? My favorite in-home speakers use two 4" bipolar full range drivers in a mass-loaded transmission-line cabinets. No crossovers, no baffles step correction circuits, just wires straight from the amp to the drivers. Pure as you are going to get.

[Triticum Agricolam]

But a tube amp and some vinyl just sounds so sexy.

Thing is sound quality is a matter of opinion, what you like chances are a lot of others dont.

I get where you are coming from, but I've heard some very good arguments why it isn't a matter of opinion.

Speakers do not produce music, they reproduce it. As such their "sound quality" is simply based on how accurately they reproduce the original sound. This ability can be measured and compared between different system to determine with one is "better".

Now everybody may have a different tone or color they like to experience their music with, which is what I think you are getting at. But that can be achieved without relying on the speakers to do it.

[Krakin]

I'm taking this to PM since this is not our thread.