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Heres a good one Whats everyone see here and make sure you pay close attention. It's not always so cut and dry and on first look you're probably gonna think wtf.

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Looked like the 2nd detective that came around the corner shot him. He had to make a split second decision and was probably hard to tell if he was putting the gun down or getting ready to raise it up like maybe he dropped it. May have felt he was saving the other cop from getting shot. The shooter had no time to analyze. Adrenaline was pumping and it was real time.

he has a gun on hand at 0.05.. looks like a revolver 357 or 380

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With situation #1 I wouldn't straight out shoot, I would however have it out and pointed at the guy and if things escalated then he could very possibly be shot. Otherwise I would urge him to leave and call the cops. In NC I believe that legally I wouldn't be within my right to use deadly force, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Situation #2 though is completely different. There is no question about it, I would shoot until I was sure that I wasn't in harms way anymore. Even if it takes the entire magazine.

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First scenario, definitely would not fire.

second scenario, it would be kinda hard to know if he was going for my gun unless he managed to get his hand on it. If someone is going for my gun, I would definitely pull the trigger on them...but over a few dollars, no way. A life is worth way more than a few dollars.

so you gonna let someone rough up your pops while you have a gun in your hand? Dude is taking a legger MINIMUM if im at the store. Maybe not shoot his head because i wouldn't want to clean up that mess.

Steve, I was under the impression you were talking about the michael brown case. In that situation, he was not pummeling the old man, he basically shoved him out of the way. I'm not going to shoot someone for that.

If someone actually got into a fight with my dad...i still don't think i'd pull the trigger with him being so close to my dad. I would definitely pick up the closest blunt object/bat and definitely go at him though.

Strong Arm Robbery. It wan't a simple shove. And it was NOT "shoplifting" like some idiots claim. I really just want to know out of curiosity how normal people would act in the same situation. So many people have double standards. They see a simple push to an old man at the store but put your own frail old pop's in the store with you and a gun on your hip. Would you pull it out and not shoot? I might not want to shoot either, depends on my anger level. But i think it would at least come out. Strong arm robbery, remember that.


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With situation #1 I wouldn't straight out shoot, I would however have it out and pointed at the guy and if things escalated then he could very possibly be shot. Otherwise I would urge him to leave and call the cops. In NC I believe that legally I wouldn't be within my right to use deadly force, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Situation #2 though is completely different. There is no question about it, I would shoot until I was sure that I wasn't in harms way anymore. Even if it takes the entire magazine.

seems fair....i would agre with that. I am simply speaking about your impulse reaction as your father was being strong armed by a criminal in his store. It's easier to be rational when you see it on TV to a stranger.

Definitely reaching for a gun, inside someones car is asking for it. Unless you wanna grab your wifes pink-pepper spray and take your chances with that. LOL


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I get what your saying about your pops getting roughed up. it would be highlly difficult to not let it boil over and let it rip.

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First scenario, definitely would not fire.

second scenario, it would be kinda hard to know if he was going for my gun unless he managed to get his hand on it. If someone is going for my gun, I would definitely pull the trigger on them...but over a few dollars, no way. A life is worth way more than a few dollars.

so you gonna let someone rough up your pops while you have a gun in your hand? Dude is taking a legger MINIMUM if im at the store. Maybe not shoot his head because i wouldn't want to clean up that mess.

Steve, I was under the impression you were talking about the michael brown case. In that situation, he was not pummeling the old man, he basically shoved him out of the way. I'm not going to shoot someone for that.

If someone actually got into a fight with my dad...i still don't think i'd pull the trigger with him being so close to my dad. I would definitely pick up the closest blunt object/bat and definitely go at him though.

Strong Arm Robbery. It wan't a simple shove. And it was NOT "shoplifting" like some idiots claim. I really just want to know out of curiosity how normal people would act in the same situation. So many people have double standards. They see a simple push to an old man at the store but put your own frail old pop's in the store with you and a gun on your hip. Would you pull it out and not shoot? I might not want to shoot either, depends on my anger level. But i think it would at least come out. Strong arm robbery, remember that.

Damn, based on my first post in this thread, I think I just got called an idiot :D

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With situation #1 I wouldn't straight out shoot, I would however have it out and pointed at the guy and if things escalated then he could very possibly be shot. Otherwise I would urge him to leave and call the cops. In NC I believe that legally I wouldn't be within my right to use deadly force, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Situation #2 though is completely different. There is no question about it, I would shoot until I was sure that I wasn't in harms way anymore. Even if it takes the entire magazine.

seems fair....i would agre with that. I am simply speaking about your impulse reaction as your father was being strong armed by a criminal in his store. It's easier to be rational when you see it on TV to a stranger.

Definitely reaching for a gun, inside someones car is asking for it. Unless you wanna grab your wifes pink-pepper spray and take your chances with that. LOL

Don't get me wrong, if it was my pops it would get serious. But if hes in non life threatening danger Im sure he would rather have me around to help him through it than locked up for killing a man that I didnt have legal means to. Would I want to shoot him?? Hell yeah, with more than one gun and chop his ass up and feed it to the fishes.

Most of the time I ride around with my window down (unless its cold) just because I always have. You better believe though that the gun is right where I can get it and theres no way im letting you have it. If its between you and me making it out alive, sorry but your gonna lose.

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First scenario, definitely would not fire.

Damn, based on my first post in this thread, I think I just got called an idiot :D

never called you anything, in fact i sorta agree with your post. But i also realize there is consequences if you shoot in situation #1. I am speaking of impulse when your dad is involved. If you just work there, that is 100% different. I get emotional when i picture someone hurting my pops and i would hope nobody ever did in my presence.

situation #2 that guy has his hand on your gun trying to pull it away from you after he already punched you through the window. That's life and death. I say shoot for sure.


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