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I would just like to say that not everyone that gets help is lazy...

Ummmm my parents got a divorce due to my dad abusing my mom constantly and finally she was fed up with it....she works 40+ hours a week raised my brother and I by herself.....so I don't wanna hear jack about POOR kids getting help.......now people that abuse the system is a bunch of garbage but those who actually need help need help..... :censored:

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Ummmm my parents got a divorce due to my dad abusing my mom constantly and finally she was fed up with it....she works 40+ hours a week raised my brother and I by herself.....so I don't wanna hear jack about POOR kids getting help.......now people that abuse the system is a bunch of garbage but those who actually need help need help..... :censored:

Well said. I am glad it helps. I guess my career choice led me to want EVERY American to be able to eat and learn. Those who need it should get it. Clinton tried to impose limits to the sysetm You had to find a job, (or at least show an effort) in a year or the money was cut off. States took that and added ridicules loop holes and pretty much anyone could stay on it.
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How are liberals and Obama going to crash the country?

Wait a few years and by that time your question will be answered. ;)

Don't get me wrong, yes I do hate obama, but I honestly believe our country is beyond saving no matter who our president be. I just feel like why rush the process? Obama is rushing the process.

Now I don't know how far the mods will allow with our opinions so I'm just going to hold off for now in this thread until they state whats ok and whats not, but I've said my opinion and that's all I need to say.

Airborne I've noticed you were arguing against alot of my opinions on liberals, is that your political affiliation by any chance? You don't have to answer, but it was just something I noticed and figured maybe that's why.

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Wait a few years and by that time your question will be answered. ;)

Don't get me wrong, yes I do hate obama, but I honestly believe our country is beyond saving no matter who our president be. I just feel like why rush the process? Obama is rushing the process.

Now I don't know how far the mods will allow with our opinions so I'm just going to hold off for now in this thread until they state whats ok and whats not, but I've said my opinion and that's all I need to say.

Airborne I've noticed you were arguing against alot of my opinions on liberals, is that your political affiliation by any chance? You don't have to answer, but it was just something I noticed and figured maybe that's why.

Look back at some of my posts. I argue where I see a mis-statement or where something is stated as fact but is baseless. I have no political affiliation. I am however directly affected by most of what the president says and does so I look for the facts and not an opinion based on 3 months of leadership. How can anyone hate the President of the United States? I hated to hear people say they hated Bush when none of them even knew why exactly. Same with Obama. So far he has directed my job to heading in the direction the majority of us want to go and are sick of a war we figured out pretty early on was fucked. I am not saying we lossed because we achieved all (and more) of the goals we set out to.
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Look back at some of my posts. I argue where I see a mis-statement or where something is stated as fact but is baseless. I have no political affiliation. I am however directly affected by most of what the president says and does so I look for the facts and not an opinion based on 3 months of leadership. How can anyone hate the President of the United States? I hated to hear people say they hated Bush when none of them even knew why exactly. Same with Obama. So far he has directed my job to heading in the direction the majority of us want to go and are sick of a war we figured out pretty early on was fucked. I am not saying we lossed because we achieved all (and more) of the goals we set out to.

That was a great response to that statement, man. I felt the same way, when Bush was in office, everyone hated him, though it was because it was the "thing to do." Everyone just sorta jumped on the bandwagon. The same effect is also showed with Obama, as the majority of the nation as a whole has jumped on the positive Obama bandwagon. I do respect him, because he is my leader, and my President. Though I do not agree with his platform, and the things he plans on doing in the near, and far future. Politics and car audio relate well, because truly, it boils down to each individuals personal opinion on the matter. It is unfortunate, simultaneously, that so many people make their decisions before becoming educated and understanding each Presidents (as aforementioned by you), as well as other administrative members platforms.

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this thread kind of reminds me how the nicest people can have the shittiest luck...

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Thank Theodore Roosevelt, Lyndon B. Johnson and in a couple years, thank Barack H. Obama.

agreed 100% man they have destroyed what this country was built upon

You can thank Nixon too and yea dont forget to thank Bush as well for bringing us the Patriot Act. :clapping:

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this whole thread allthough a great forum for peoples opinions on how our government is run, is very depressing because things have gotten this bad that we talk about it on a CAR AUDIO board!

No matter how much some of us might not agree with the war or how it was handled or how much you think you can blame the economy on BUSH, he was a good president in a bad time. In the end when things are not going well, you blame the person in charge. Its the nature of the beast. Even though the problems with our economy were set in motion long ago.

But OBAMA takes it to another level. Right now our country is being ran on money that does not exist!!!! Me being 22 and my future children are going to have to pay for the BILLIONS that was borrowed and then given out to things like GM, who squandered somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-40 BILLON dollars right in front of our "government." THATS A FACT! Then what about the MILLIONS that goes to things like ACORN????? Whats ACORN you ask? Its a mostly Democratic group that is for REFORM, and by reform i mean Socialism. Since the Democrats came up with the TARP bill why not throw some of our tax money to themselves and not say anything about it. Sounds right, doesnt it?

What about the other small things you never heard about in the TARP bill? Another example is the portions of the bill that creates a "loop hole" of sorts for the government to digitize all medical records. Why do that? So you can have a government person at a desk somewhere in the world decide if you recieve treatment for whatever ails you, but only if it makes since financially to them. They take the years they think it will add on your life devide the price its going to cost for the treatment and then from there decide if insurance is going to cover it. Sounds great doesnt it? Someone that you will never meet that is not your doctor that has been seeing you for years making possibly a life and death decision for you based on $$$! No matter what you say about BUSH he did nothing like obama has in the past few months pushing our country towards socialism.

Now I have come to the realization that there is nothing i can do but hope. Hope that something happens to this country that will turn it around. It seems to me that since 9/11 politicians and other high ranking officials have had nothing on their mind but to line their pockets, and run this country into the ground. I am also confident that before i die there will be a revolution of some sort at our government. Thats my own personal belief, but just in the past few years Americans have become more and more angry with our government, and its going to come to a head sooner or later.

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this whole thread allthough a great forum for peoples opinions on how our government is run, is very depressing because things have gotten this bad that we talk about it on a CAR AUDIO board!

I think it's great that this board has so many features that it does. There's a subforum for sports, computers, video games, guns, etc... So what's wrong with a politics area? Seems like SMD is becoming a great one stop place for people to have fun, and it always roots back to the main reason we all joined this forum is the custom car audio discussion.

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I think it's great that this board has so many features that it does. There's a subforum for sports, computers, video games, guns, etc... So what's wrong with a politics area? Seems like SMD is becoming a great one stop place for people to have fun, and it always roots back to the main reason we all joined this forum is the custom car audio discussion.

Exactly it is a group that has everything for everyone. If you don't like the politics, don't read it. If you don't like sports then do the same. I hate people who purpously come here just to bitch about the politic part of this site. Too damn bad, DON'T READ IT!!!!!

Read what you came here for, it's as simple as that.

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