Nightshade Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I've also found out that the Sundown amps make more power and spl with the bass knobs unplugged. I've been doing this for almost a year on mine. Also try maxing out the crossover to 220hz and turning the sub sonic filter down to 10hz. This will let all signal pass through and will be louder than setting those to somewhere in the middle. Quote 2013 VW Jetta GLI 2.0 Turbo 1 Sundown Audio SCV2000 1 Sundown Audio X15 V2 1 XS Power D3100 Audio Control LC6i Stock Deck 146.4 sealed on the dash at 37hz 2001 Focus ZX3: RETIRED Team Sundown Audio, Team XS Power, 2 time NSPL Car 3601-Up Champion, 2 time NSPL Car Hardcore ChampionHighest NSPL Scores to date:154.3db on the dash sealed at 46hz, 156.2db in the kick at 46hz155.2db unofficial on dash at 43hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 i suppose it depends on what amp and what function the knob actually controls.... i just got my aq2200d today... and the manual says that the knob controls the "level" whatever that means... and it also has a clipping light on it... sooo.... im wondering just exactly what my knob does...lol... and its kinda weard... the max is on the left and min is on the right so you have to turn it counter clockwise to turn it up...and i also have a question about the clip light thing... could this be used to get a pretty good idea on where the gains should be? does it pretty much be the same as an oscope except you dont see the waves? the op got the info he wanted i believe... so ima bump this to see if i can get some Audioque owners in here... instead of wasteing the bandwidth on another thread... Quote http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/79921-rogers-700-dream-car-update-page-17-a-wall/?p=2335774 93 Saturn SC2My system4 SA-15's Walled 2 Cerwin-Vega S2000's 3 Kinetik Hc2000's Dual 200amp alts. you guys done with the peepee touching contest or do I need to end it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin175 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) ok well my colosuss has a bass boost dial on it an a bass knob( not using ) an i have the bass boost all the way up then i set my gain lvl but from what u guys r saying i should turn the bass boost all the way down turn the HD unit up t as loud as i listen to it an then turn my gain up as far as i need to or when the sub maxes out an leave the bass boost at 0 Edited August 11, 2009 by Austin175 Quote kia spectra 4 door HU-a kenwood kdc-692x optima red top under the hood ( kinetik battery or powermaster in the back ) Iraggi 260amp H/O alternator 1 set of knu kandy 1/0 guage wiring kit ( 2 more sets coming ) front speakers - back speakers - 2 12" lv 4's with lvl 5 softparts ( going to be 4 in near future) Sundown 3500d( going to be 2 sometime ) i have boughten from - Bass14(smd), ddbump(caraudioclassifieds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zfrerichs Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 yeah the bass knob coked out 800+ watts out of two 3000ds strapped at 1.4 so .7 each amp and almost 1200 watts out of the 7k Quote Roseville, CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin175 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 well if i have to do it that way then whats the point of the bass boost or a bass knob Quote kia spectra 4 door HU-a kenwood kdc-692x optima red top under the hood ( kinetik battery or powermaster in the back ) Iraggi 260amp H/O alternator 1 set of knu kandy 1/0 guage wiring kit ( 2 more sets coming ) front speakers - back speakers - 2 12" lv 4's with lvl 5 softparts ( going to be 4 in near future) Sundown 3500d( going to be 2 sometime ) i have boughten from - Bass14(smd), ddbump(caraudioclassifieds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQMonte Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 i suppose it depends on what amp and what function the knob actually controls.... i just got my aq2200d today... and the manual says that the knob controls the "level" whatever that means... and it also has a clipping light on it... sooo.... im wondering just exactly what my knob does...lol... and its kinda weard... the max is on the left and min is on the right so you have to turn it counter clockwise to turn it up...and i also have a question about the clip light thing... could this be used to get a pretty good idea on where the gains should be? does it pretty much be the same as an oscope except you dont see the waves? I have an AQ1200D and just installed my bass knob last weekend and thought it was odd that it was labeled as you mentioned above. If anybody knows for sure, please get back to us. Quote Alpine CDA-117...Memphis 16-X03 CDT Audio SQA-4100...SEAS Prestige H1396...Crescendo MP-6 Soundstream Rubicon 1.2500d...Digital Designs 3512f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin175 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 well tomorrow im going to re set my gains an stuff but with the bass boost all the way down this time Quote kia spectra 4 door HU-a kenwood kdc-692x optima red top under the hood ( kinetik battery or powermaster in the back ) Iraggi 260amp H/O alternator 1 set of knu kandy 1/0 guage wiring kit ( 2 more sets coming ) front speakers - back speakers - 2 12" lv 4's with lvl 5 softparts ( going to be 4 in near future) Sundown 3500d( going to be 2 sometime ) i have boughten from - Bass14(smd), ddbump(caraudioclassifieds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapuhho Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 So.. I'm kind of a noob at this stuff. I have a p-1000 and I have punch eq and then gain.. is it any different? Quote 4 18's, low power and lots of gay fur. Team gg Team DOA My Videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittlesRgood Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I never use bass boost or plug in my bass knobs for SPL, as they will actually decrease the score.Amps usually have a sweet spot of signal input voltage. Anything over can be too clipped, or just too much for the amp to operate efficiently at. Bass boost increases the signal input voltage into the input stage of the amp. So if your amp's sweet spot is 2.5v for example, and your headunit is a 2.5v pre-amp output. And your gain is set on the amp to the proper sensitivity, Then the bass boost is just overdriving the amp and putting maybe 3.5v input for example. the sundowns dont use a bass boost knob. its a gain knob. no offence but all your posts here dont address the problem at all. i dont understand how this could be. how did the test go? i could only believe this number is you had an o-scope, set your gains with no gain knob then turned the gain on the amp all the way up and retune with the knob and o-scope. is that what he did? im really interested in knowing more about this and figuring it out. Quote If I answered you in a well mannered, informative way, you asked a good question or had a good attitude. If I was an asshole, you asked a stupid question or you had a fucktard attitude... or I was in a bad mood. Team BassickHU: Pioneer AVIC Z110Front: Peerless SLS 6.5", Peerless HDS 4", Rainbow tweeter - running activeAmp: JL HD600/4 and DC 4 channel (bridged to midbass)Processor: JBL MS-8Subs: 2x 12" AA MayhemsAmp: DC 3kElectrical: DC power 270xp alt. 1/0 big 4. XSpower D3400 and six D680s. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/121795-29-update-the-buick-is-getting-a-rebuild/ Top career scores: DBdrag 151.7 MECA SQ 82.25My SOTM build Yeah. im pretty sure they dont warranty retarded people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundownz Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I can do the exact same score with or without the knob - just compensate a little with a bit more RCA signal (higher sub control level) or amp gain. The knob is always going to have some sort of resistance and being in line with the signal it will decrease signal level a bit due to that. Quote - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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