FI or AQ??

[mlstrass]

might help to try and hear both subs, but that will still depend upon install enclosure as I've heard horrible AQ and FI set ups when the box was all wrong, amp settings jacked up, etc...

[Beanz]

Both are goood sub but with that much power you gotta know what your doing man ..but either way your good just make sure you get teh aluminum coils if you do plan on going with the btls

[kirill007]

I've seen on quite a few pictures that the AQ aren't as high quality as Fi subs.

But i think you should take the AQ subs, they are cheaper, realiable(as the BTL's), and they have good CS.(both companies have real good CS)

EDIT: i hope you are going to get a second alt to power those amps properly.(and maybe a few batts.)

If you know what you're doing both subs will take that amp, put it's quite a lot of power for a sub daily.

[mxman38]

AQ is very comparable especially for the price and customer service...

Id go with AQ brotha

[Marlo Stanfield]

I've seen on quite a few pictures that the AQ aren't as high quality as Fi subs.

But i think you should take the AQ subs, they are cheaper, realiable(as the BTL's), and they have good CS.(both companies have real good CS)

EDIT: i hope you are going to get a second alt to power those amps properly.(and maybe a few batts.)

If you know what you're doing both subs will take that amp, put it's quite a lot of power for a sub daily.

How does that make any sense?? You stated that AQ aren't as high quality as FI woofers and then say they are as reliable at BTLs. If you're gonna give advice to someone at least have it make sense and be helpful in some manner.

I've tested the "new" BTL and the older alum coil HDC3, both performed extremely well in my testing. Up to like 2500w the HDC3 were louder by a few tenths but as soon as higher amounts of power came into play the BTL really showed it strengths. Up to about 3500w or so the HDC3 handled the power just fine, but anymore than that they started to heat up rather quickly and did get a little stinky on music. The BTL did just fine up to around 5k on music and really impressed me with it being more musical than I expected it to be.

So in conclusion the HDC3 was more musical than the BTL, although not by a huge margin IMO.. The BTL handles power a good amount better over 2500w and can take more overall power.

What's your budget for the 4 woofers??

[kirill007]

How does that make any sense?? You stated that AQ aren't as high quality as FI woofers and then say they are as reliable at BTLs. If you're gonna give advice to someone at least have it make sense and be helpful in some manner.

Better build quality, better glue seams,better power handling, better finish on the whole sub.(that's what i meant with better quality.)

With relialbe i mean they can handle more then rated power and nothing will happen if you treat them right.

(Maybe it doesn't makes sense to you, but if i said i've seen on pictures, you would need to think about cosmetics, and relaibility has nothing to do with finish of a product.)

[KAPONE.SS]

Personally I would never run a Hdc3 on a AQ3500d daily. for burps yeah but not on music or 2 HDC3 on one AQ3500d daily. I would run my BTL on a AQ3500d daily and plan to. I think it all depends on your budget and what you are looking for. I have seen someone on here get over 150db with 1 10". I think it is more about the box then the subs. There are goods and bads for both.

[mlstrass]

Personally I would never run a Hdc3 on a AQ3500d daily. for burps yeah but not on music or 2 HDC3 on one AQ3500d daily. I would run my BTL on a AQ3500d daily and plan to. I think it all depends on your budget and what you are looking for. I have seen someone on here get over 150db with 1 10". I think it is more about the box then the subs. There are goods and bads for both.

Copper coil HDC I agree with you, but I assume he's looking at the alum coils. I've been running alum coils HDC's on a 3500 each for the past year with NO issues. Yes you can get them stinky, but that takes a long demo session or a song that's clipped to shit.

And they take 2 3500's at .5ohm each for burps no problem...

[mlstrass]

How does that make any sense?? You stated that AQ aren't as high quality as FI woofers and then say they are as reliable at BTLs. If you're gonna give advice to someone at least have it make sense and be helpful in some manner.

I've tested the "new" BTL and the older alum coil HDC3, both performed extremely well in my testing. Up to like 2500w the HDC3 were louder by a few tenths but as soon as higher amounts of power came into play the BTL really showed it strengths. Up to about 3500w or so the HDC3 handled the power just fine, but anymore than that they started to heat up rather quickly and did get a little stinky on music. The BTL did just fine up to around 5k on music and really impressed me with it being more musical than I expected it to be.

So in conclusion the HDC3 was more musical than the BTL, although not by a huge margin IMO.. The BTL handles power a good amount better over 2500w and can take more overall power.

What's your budget for the 4 woofers??

BTL taking 5kw on music had to be a streetbeat/bassrace run as I don't see a 3" VC sub taking that power for daily. My HDC's took 7kw for a roll up burp on music the the other day, but I wouldn't try it for a 30sec run.

[Marlo Stanfield]

BTL taking 5kw on music had to be a streetbeat/bassrace run as I don't see a 3" VC sub taking that power for daily. My HDC's took 7kw for a roll up burp on music the the other day, but I wouldn't try it for a 30sec run.

It wasn't a clamped 5k, it was just an AB 500.1 @ 1ohm and actual clamped power after rise was like 3k or so on burps at least. Obviously the rise is gonna change on music though. When I test woofers(depending on how long i get them) I'll usually run them through the paces with different types of music, then burps, and finally bassrace them if I have time.