mhart Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 depends. AC's have that gain knob for god knows why (i'd like to know if anyone does) so the only way to know how far off one meter is from a TL, you gotta have em side by side ours is 9db off competition wise, an AC mic is VERY accurate, everyone would have the same 9db boost. so if you were 1.3db louder on an ac, youre 1.3 louder on a tl. tl is pre-calibrated so unit to unit, show to show, your score is going to be the same. AC's are all calibrated slightly different, so a 150 here is a 145 there and a 152 somewhere else. from what i remember the gain helped to match mics for head to head comps. '00 Honda Civic Si IASCA stock trunk/pickup 1 World Record 4/20 150.6/150.7dBTeam DC Team XS Power Team ISB Steve's Body Shophttp://www.dcsoundlab.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treossi Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 This is not completely true. I've seen variances between TL's from person to person. For example my Team's TL reads about .3db lower than the TL that the promoter of NSPL uses and about .7db lower than a local SC organization. I've also seen this to be true from show to show in Ohio where different TL's have been used since a different promoter was running the shows.I've never seen more than a db but it is still odd how they are completely different even when tested side by side, which has been done several times before. They can still fall out of calibration and need to be sent back every once and a while to Wayne Harris for recalibration. Usually when a vehicle over 170db is on the mic is when it will start to loose it's accuracy. i metered on two different TL's in the same day, and got the same score, so they're pretty consisitant Team sundownWESTCOASTSPL.COM we're throwing dbdrag events very soon visit the website for details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedchild420 Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 SCOSCHE SPL Meter FTMFW! My POS Bass machine-2003 Hyundai Santa Fe on some shitty 22'sBed Liner Paint Job-Pioneer AVH 3200DVD4 DAD BD series 15's in a 4th Order (Bassheads ENT Design)4 Arc Audio XDI2000.1 for the woofers6 Cadence CVL68MBX 6.5's-Cadence CVL88MBX 8's-6 Cadence XT20 Supertweeters2 Arc Audio KS300.4's for mids and tweets1 Arc Audio ALD 10v Line DriverAll Audiotechnix Power wire1 DC Power 270XP High Output Alternator1 XS Power D3400 up front....6 XS Power D3100's in the rearAir Lift 1000 Bags in rear to help with suspensionIf your still reading this GFY....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobtastic14 Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Only time I got on an AC it was about the same score as the TL +/- .2db -Drew I am a United States Military Arts and Crafts Professional. Sand it off, Paint it on. uhoh_45 said: dont be a pussy P give the jeep to drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 i metered on two different TL's in the same day, and got the same score, so they're pretty consisitant And those were what the two times that you have ever metered your car? I know what I'm talking about since I've been to easily over 100 shows and competed in more than 50. I've metered my car longer than it takes most people to build their entire vehicle. If I'm telling you that I've seen as much as .7db difference from TL to TL then why do you have to question that with saying that they are pretty consistant? Yes some will ready the same number, but I'd be willing to bet that there's no way you've encountered nearly as many mics as I have since the TL came out to know that not every one is going to read the same as the next. It's misleading when you contradict what I said with "I metered twice in one day with two different TL's and they read the same" That may lead someone to believe that statement is completley true that all TL's are going to read identical and the fact is that they won't. 2013 VW Jetta GLI 2.0 Turbo 1 Sundown Audio SCV2000 1 Sundown Audio X15 V2 1 XS Power D3100 Audio Control LC6i Stock Deck 146.4 sealed on the dash at 37hz 2001 Focus ZX3: RETIRED Team Sundown Audio, Team XS Power, 2 time NSPL Car 3601-Up Champion, 2 time NSPL Car Hardcore ChampionHighest NSPL Scores to date:154.3db on the dash sealed at 46hz, 156.2db in the kick at 46hz155.2db unofficial on dash at 43hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobtastic14 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Well aren't you top shit. I am a United States Military Arts and Crafts Professional. Sand it off, Paint it on. uhoh_45 said: dont be a pussy P give the jeep to drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittlesRgood Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 i metered on two different TL's in the same day, and got the same score, so they're pretty consisitant and my broken watch is right twice a day seriously though, im sure you can find a lot of mics that are the same but they dont all read the same. not that they are 4db off like an AC but just a few tenths. even the cords make a difference in how they read. Well aren't you top shit. same thing went through my head. If I answered you in a well mannered, informative way, you asked a good question or had a good attitude. If I was an asshole, you asked a stupid question or you had a fucktard attitude... or I was in a bad mood. Team BassickHU: Pioneer AVIC Z110Front: Peerless SLS 6.5", Peerless HDS 4", Rainbow tweeter - running activeAmp: JL HD600/4 and DC 4 channel (bridged to midbass)Processor: JBL MS-8Subs: 2x 12" AA MayhemsAmp: DC 3kElectrical: DC power 270xp alt. 1/0 big 4. XSpower D3400 and six D680s. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/121795-29-update-the-buick-is-getting-a-rebuild/ Top career scores: DBdrag 151.7 MECA SQ 82.25My SOTM build Yeah. im pretty sure they dont warranty retarded people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobtastic14 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 ^^^^ Tis True. What cracks me up is that so far everybody seems to be giving their honest opinion and experience (if any) when using multiple mics, Except Nightshade who takes personal offense to an opposing opinion. -Drew I am a United States Military Arts and Crafts Professional. Sand it off, Paint it on. uhoh_45 said: dont be a pussy P give the jeep to drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPimpin91 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 They A/C isn't always consistent either. Me and my buddy were at a show where they were using an ac. We found somebody who had had a TL. I did a 140.1 in kick with old set-up. He did a 143.4. A/C Scores? I did 139.5. He did a 140.1. BigPimpin91's Banging Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decaf Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 the caraudio shop in my town swears AC is God and TL is for poor losers ive explained only IASCA uses AC, otherwise all other sactioned events are TL and when my friend metered there he got 136.1, 1 day later nothing changed on TL he did 139.1 (this was headrest scores, the only ones that matter imo when it comes to provin what ur ears are experiencing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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