bassHZ Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 how do i know when this head unit starts clipping http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17768_Pioneer+DEH-P5100UB.html am trying to tune ma boys 4 chan fosgate t400-4 the volume maxes out at 50 on the head unit but i need to know whats the max volume to turn it up to tune it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofthehour Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 head units clip? or do you mean subwoofer? edit: what I did with my setup is I put the volume at a reasonable level to which I could ride around to (not blasting) and the bass at +7 and sub level on HU at 15, then I tuned the amp and made the subs beat as hard as they could (to the point where they still sounded good tho) that way if I wanted to turn the volume of the mids and highs I would turn down the bass and up the volume. I have a high pass filter on my HU tho idk if you do... but thats what I do. Hope that helps. My stuff '06 Scion xA: -Alpine iDa-x100 -Alpine KTP-445 Power Pack -Polk Audio db6501 (front components) -Polk Audio db651 (back coaxials) -2 RE Audio SEX12D4s -Cadence F1200-1D - Custom box tuned to 33Hz - Kinetik HC1400 - 50 ft2 of Audio Technix sound deadner - Big 3 My photography page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris661 Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 no way you can tell without an o-scope http://www.youtube.com/user/EAZYCHRIS?feature=mhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven6977 Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 a good max is like 3/4 of the total. (or at least thats what i use on my pioneer) i notice that a couple clicks after that amount and i start to hear that nasty ass clippage. gl bro Rowan University Electrical Engineering LINK TO MY BUILDDDDD Current Setup in my 00' Hyundai Accent: Pioneer DEH-P6900UB RE.6.5C AUDIO 500w 6.5" COMPONENT CAR SPEAKERS Eclipse SE 6500 (6.5 coax in rear deck) two Kicker C124's in a t-line tuned to 28.6Hz Kenwood KAC-7204 US amps 1600.4 V2 Upcoming Build this summer: T-Line enclosure for two C124's tuned to 28ish hz O_O amp my speakers with a US amps 1600.4. Second Skin Should be fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris661 Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 a good max is like 3/4 of the total. (or at least thats what i use on my pioneer) i notice that a couple clicks after that amount and i start to hear that nasty ass clippage. gl bro i dont mean to be all know it all.. but i dont think you cant hear cliping.. i think you mean distortion http://www.youtube.com/user/EAZYCHRIS?feature=mhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofthehour Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 i dont mean to be all know it all.. but i dont think you cant hear cliping.. i think you mean distortion This guy sounds like he knows what he's talkin about (not saying this in a mean way) : [[[you can always hear clipping. It wil sound like a harsh "clack" um, that's not clipping at all. What you're describing is "bottoming out"...when the sub's voice coil hits the back plate due to over-excursion. Besides, subs dont clip...amps do. Clipping is a term that is used to describe the signal that the amp is producing. A normal signal is a sine wave, but a clipped signal becomes square. This square wave sends more heat to the sub and causes the sub's cone to not move as much as it should; hence, losing its ability to dissipate the extra heat. This can cause the sub's VC to fry. The sound the subwoofer makes when an amp sends a clipped signal is generally just a distorted sound. You know how a certain note should sound, but when clipped, it sounds "off" or distorted. Many people refer to this sound in subwoofers as being similar to that of a "wet fart".]]] My stuff '06 Scion xA: -Alpine iDa-x100 -Alpine KTP-445 Power Pack -Polk Audio db6501 (front components) -Polk Audio db651 (back coaxials) -2 RE Audio SEX12D4s -Cadence F1200-1D - Custom box tuned to 33Hz - Kinetik HC1400 - 50 ft2 of Audio Technix sound deadner - Big 3 My photography page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassHZ Posted April 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 yeah 3/4 would be at 37.5 volume and they are mids and highs am doing and yeah hard with out an o oscope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris661 Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 This guy sounds like he knows what he's talkin about (not saying this in a mean way) : [[[you can always hear clipping. It wil sound like a harsh "clack" um, that's not clipping at all. What you're describing is "bottoming out"...when the sub's voice coil hits the back plate due to over-excursion. Besides, subs dont clip...amps do. Clipping is a term that is used to describe the signal that the amp is producing. A normal signal is a sine wave, but a clipped signal becomes square. This square wave sends more heat to the sub and causes the sub's cone to not move as much as it should; hence, losing its ability to dissipate the extra heat. This can cause the sub's VC to fry. The sound the subwoofer makes when an amp sends a clipped signal is generally just a distorted sound. You know how a certain note should sound, but when clipped, it sounds "off" or distorted. Many people refer to this sound in subwoofers as being similar to that of a "wet fart".]]] well put.. well this is what the form are for.. to learn something http://www.youtube.com/user/EAZYCHRIS?feature=mhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI James Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 head units clip? or do you mean subwoofer? edit: what I did with my setup is I put the volume at a reasonable level to which I could ride around to (not blasting) and the bass at +7 and sub level on HU at 15, then I tuned the amp and made the subs beat as hard as they could (to the point where they still sounded good tho) that way if I wanted to turn the volume of the mids and highs I would turn down the bass and up the volume. I have a high pass filter on my HU tho idk if you do... but thats what I do. Hope that helps. thats not the correct way btw, GL with fried equipment/shitty sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassHZ Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 ok so i need a 1k hz sine wave to tune my mids and highs right i can get it at real of excursion?? any one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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