BeAlLsTaR13 Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 try it with a 60ish pound 12 fi btl where the magnet is basically bigger then the cut out.. pain in the ASS inside the vehicle, without moving the box? lol Team Sundown Audio**CURRENT** -- 2012 Scion tC Build Click Here **OLD** -- 2002 Pontiac Grand AM Build Click Herecheck them out, slap me a comment2002 Pontiac Grand AM SE 2.2l 4 cylinder ecotec.-------------------------------------------------------------------Head Unit - Alpine CDA-9887Subs - 2x Z 12 v.2s - v.3 + NS Soft partsAmplifier - Sundown Audio SAZ-3500DEnclosure - 3.33 Cubes tuned to 34.66hzFront Stage - JBL P660c 6.5" ComponentsRear Deck - Powerbass 4xl 6.5" Mid-RangeFront Stage Amplifier - Sundown Audio SAX-100.4DWires - Kicker Hyperflex 1/0, KnuKonceptz 1/0, Knu 4 and 8 Gauge, Kicker RCAsElectrical - 275 AMP DC Power H/O Alternator, XS Power S3400, XS Power D2700Videos - http://www.youtube.com/user/BeAILsTaR13------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAlLsTaR13 Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 so here:s what we did: ran my dc lvl 4s on ed NINe.1 @ .8 ohm ran a pair of dc lvl 3s on sundown saz-2000d @ 1 ohm NEITHER amp went into protect Team Sundown Audio**CURRENT** -- 2012 Scion tC Build Click Here **OLD** -- 2002 Pontiac Grand AM Build Click Herecheck them out, slap me a comment2002 Pontiac Grand AM SE 2.2l 4 cylinder ecotec.-------------------------------------------------------------------Head Unit - Alpine CDA-9887Subs - 2x Z 12 v.2s - v.3 + NS Soft partsAmplifier - Sundown Audio SAZ-3500DEnclosure - 3.33 Cubes tuned to 34.66hzFront Stage - JBL P660c 6.5" ComponentsRear Deck - Powerbass 4xl 6.5" Mid-RangeFront Stage Amplifier - Sundown Audio SAX-100.4DWires - Kicker Hyperflex 1/0, KnuKonceptz 1/0, Knu 4 and 8 Gauge, Kicker RCAsElectrical - 275 AMP DC Power H/O Alternator, XS Power S3400, XS Power D2700Videos - http://www.youtube.com/user/BeAILsTaR13------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 so here:s what we did: ran my dc lvl 4s on ed NINe.1 @ .8 ohm ran a pair of dc lvl 3s on sundown saz-2000d @ 1 ohm NEITHER amp went into protect WTF??? So you ran your subs on a different amp and it didnt go into protect. Then ran Some Lvl 3's on your amp and it didnt go into protect. Thats weird as Fawk! What impedance is your level 4's on your sundown amp? Maybe if you are running the lvl 4's at a lower that 1ohm impedance its a safety protect or something. It shouldn't do that tho. If thats the case for some weird reason, maybe you will have to run the lvl 4's in series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAlLsTaR13 Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 WTF??? So you ran your subs on a different amp and it didnt go into protect. Then ran Some Lvl 3's on your amp and it didnt go into protect. Thats weird as Fawk! What impedance is your level 4's on your sundown amp? Maybe if you are running the lvl 4's at a lower that 1ohm impedance its a safety protect or something. It shouldn't do that tho. If thats the case for some weird reason, maybe you will have to run the lvl 4's in series running @ 2 ohms is my next thing we just: free air'd the subs @ .8 and didnt go into protect on the saz-2000d Team Sundown Audio**CURRENT** -- 2012 Scion tC Build Click Here **OLD** -- 2002 Pontiac Grand AM Build Click Herecheck them out, slap me a comment2002 Pontiac Grand AM SE 2.2l 4 cylinder ecotec.-------------------------------------------------------------------Head Unit - Alpine CDA-9887Subs - 2x Z 12 v.2s - v.3 + NS Soft partsAmplifier - Sundown Audio SAZ-3500DEnclosure - 3.33 Cubes tuned to 34.66hzFront Stage - JBL P660c 6.5" ComponentsRear Deck - Powerbass 4xl 6.5" Mid-RangeFront Stage Amplifier - Sundown Audio SAX-100.4DWires - Kicker Hyperflex 1/0, KnuKonceptz 1/0, Knu 4 and 8 Gauge, Kicker RCAsElectrical - 275 AMP DC Power H/O Alternator, XS Power S3400, XS Power D2700Videos - http://www.youtube.com/user/BeAILsTaR13------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 running @ 2 ohms is my next thing we just: free air'd the subs @ .8 and didnt go into protect on the saz-2000d Maybe the box rise is dropping it into protect. I wouldnt think it would, but after you said you free aired the subs and it didnt go into protect, thats the only thing i could think of that would even be reasonable for this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAlLsTaR13 Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Maybe the box rise is dropping it into protect. I wouldnt think it would, but after you said you free aired the subs and it didnt go into protect, thats the only thing i could think of that would even be reasonable for this problem. yeah, i actually had the subs still running into the box, had it wired amp > box > subs but jacob said he ran my other amp and could NOT get it to go into protect no matter what he ran it at. Team Sundown Audio**CURRENT** -- 2012 Scion tC Build Click Here **OLD** -- 2002 Pontiac Grand AM Build Click Herecheck them out, slap me a comment2002 Pontiac Grand AM SE 2.2l 4 cylinder ecotec.-------------------------------------------------------------------Head Unit - Alpine CDA-9887Subs - 2x Z 12 v.2s - v.3 + NS Soft partsAmplifier - Sundown Audio SAZ-3500DEnclosure - 3.33 Cubes tuned to 34.66hzFront Stage - JBL P660c 6.5" ComponentsRear Deck - Powerbass 4xl 6.5" Mid-RangeFront Stage Amplifier - Sundown Audio SAX-100.4DWires - Kicker Hyperflex 1/0, KnuKonceptz 1/0, Knu 4 and 8 Gauge, Kicker RCAsElectrical - 275 AMP DC Power H/O Alternator, XS Power S3400, XS Power D2700Videos - http://www.youtube.com/user/BeAILsTaR13------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 yeah, i actually had the subs still running into the box, had it wired amp > box > subs but jacob said he ran my other amp and could NOT get it to go into protect no matter what he ran it at. Yeah i heard from a buddy that sundown makes amps that can pretty much run on any load and not go into protect, that's why this is weird. So Now we know that 1. connections are good 2. Subs impedance are fine and no coil problems 3. The amp doesn't have a problem with it. and 4. The voltage is healthy. Hmm.... The only thing i can think to do now is try wiring the subs in series and see if that will allow you to full tilt and play your music. If so, I guess everyone here will have to throw out some more troubleshooting ideas for wiring in parallel without protect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirill007 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 HOw did u set the gains? Thinking is the root of all problems... You ALWAYS get what you pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanitarium Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 you really need a DMM set at the amp while playing. put it on the voltage leads at the amp and play and watch it closely for voltage spikes/dips. then put it on your speakers and check resistance while playing, again watch it very closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapo123 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 dude thats weird as hell.. Steve I don't know why but everytime I see your new paint I want a Dr. Pepper...... is this normal? heres an analogy for you. running a high power stereo without a fuse is like having unprotected sex with that hot chick at the bar with the sketchy sexual history. Sure you may be fine and nothing happens but that one time something does happen you're fucked. i dont want woofer broke like bass sound clip clip and voice coil overheat 2 sa12s, saz1500 build log http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/91183-chapo123s-sundown-build-log/page__gopid__1250604entry1250604 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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