sub/amp...does it work?

[nCOMP1337]

TeamHT is right, no trying to down you, just trying to learn ya, lol

there is a reason that most quality amplifiers that can do even 1000-1500 watts (RMS that is) are no cheaper than 200 new, if the number doesnt have RMS beside it, its not a real number the amp is capable of most likely

for just a little more money, you can get a proper monoblock for under 250 that does anywhere form 1000-1500 rms depending on the company audiopipe, audioque, hifonics

as previously stated you really do not want a multichannel amp to run your subs

The 350 watt RMS amp (2 channel, bridged into 4ohm) will work just fine for that sub. Why does everyone keep insisting that you can't use multi channel amps on subs? That amp isn't the best amp around but it will sure do him fine until he gets a better amp.

Of course you can use multichannels for subs...and monoblocks for your front stage...the point is...

Kynto never said you can't, he suggested the easier more efficient route.

Fair enough, there was another post that said monoblocks were for subs and multichannels were for mids and highs that I was more referring too. Although in this case, the 2 channel amp (aside from being cheap) really does work just fine for what this guy wants.

there was another poster who said something like that, so wouldnt you quote the person your talking in which your referencing, anyways as was said for my post i think the guy that stated the opinion about the mono or multis, was also meaning that it is best or at least typically practiced that most people use monos for subs and multis for mids/highs...some people may whole heartedly agree this iks how is must be done, just because thats how theyve always done it or because they believe in better efficiency, i dunno

i dont have a problem with people using multichannel amps, but the guy was talking about getting a new amp and not necessarily using the one he already has, so thats why i was stating the info ab out the amp he posted and why he could get a more powerful monoblock amp for just a bit more and it would work out better

to each there own, im all for that, i have a neighbor that swears by lightning audio and they just wont listen to reason, lol i was just trying to help, i have still not done my first major build but ive been doing research for a year, so i was just sort of suggesting the OP uses the search button on the site or google a bit, if after research he still wants to do the same thing, then its cool, but i beliueve in getting the best bang for your buck and if you can do that while also getting quality, efficient equipment, why not

what im referring to is that he stated he could get a 4000w amp for 180, (anyone in car audio that doesnt use RMS and assumes that any number in fornt of a w is what the amp will put out, needs to do more reading is what i believe), he stated that like he was getting an amazing deal and he might be if the amp puts out 2000rms, 1000 per channel like it states, but if he is gonna spend that much money, he could save slightly more and get a known quality amp which is also a class d mono

this i think is one of the main reasons TeamHT told him to go do more reading, albeit he should have told him why except for a generalization g of you dot know what your talking about, lol but thats why i added thew info in my post about the amp he was talking about..........thena gain much of this is just my opinion i understand

Edited December 5, 2010 by kynto

[TeamHT]

TeamHT is right, no trying to down you, just trying to learn ya, lol

there is a reason that most quality amplifiers that can do even 1000-1500 watts (RMS that is) are no cheaper than 200 new, if the number doesnt have RMS beside it, its not a real number the amp is capable of most likely

for just a little more money, you can get a proper monoblock for under 250 that does anywhere form 1000-1500 rms depending on the company audiopipe, audioque, hifonics

as previously stated you really do not want a multichannel amp to run your subs

The 350 watt RMS amp (2 channel, bridged into 4ohm) will work just fine for that sub. Why does everyone keep insisting that you can't use multi channel amps on subs? That amp isn't the best amp around but it will sure do him fine until he gets a better amp.

Of course you can use multichannels for subs...and monoblocks for your front stage...the point is...

Kynto never said you can't, he suggested the easier more efficient route.

Fair enough, there was another post that said monoblocks were for subs and multichannels were for mids and highs that I was more referring too. Although in this case, the 2 channel amp (aside from being cheap) really does work just fine for what this guy wants.

I see. Yeah, there is about a 30/70 mix of good and bad advice on the forum. Some...opinions and misinformation. I see where you are coming from though

[ac122345]

TeamHT is right, no trying to down you, just trying to learn ya, lol

there is a reason that most quality amplifiers that can do even 1000-1500 watts (RMS that is) are no cheaper than 200 new, if the number doesnt have RMS beside it, its not a real number the amp is capable of most likely

for just a little more money, you can get a proper monoblock for under 250 that does anywhere form 1000-1500 rms depending on the company audiopipe, audioque, hifonics

as previously stated you really do not want a multichannel amp to run your subs

The 350 watt RMS amp (2 channel, bridged into 4ohm) will work just fine for that sub. Why does everyone keep insisting that you can't use multi channel amps on subs? That amp isn't the best amp around but it will sure do him fine until he gets a better amp.

Of course you can use multichannels for subs...and monoblocks for your front stage...the point is...

Kynto never said you can't, he suggested the easier more efficient route.

Fair enough, there was another post that said monoblocks were for subs and multichannels were for mids and highs that I was more referring too. Although in this case, the 2 channel amp (aside from being cheap) really does work just fine for what this guy wants.

I see. Yeah, there is about a 30/70 mix of good and bad advice on the forum. Some...opinions and misinformation. I see where you are coming from though

Say I were to spend around $250-$350 on a "quality" amp...what would you suggest for the JL Audio 15? Im open for suggestion, obviously I posted on an open forum. Its only in my work car but I still want it (the system) to do some damage to the neighbors lol. I agree maybe I should do some more research but thats kinda why im here! Its not easy to post on a forum and get an immediate resopnse or even positive feedback. I do appreciate everyone's advice though. Mono or 2 channel, whatever it may be, let me know some decent amps in that price range. I've put a few thousand into other systems but didn't install myself. Its not really a problem to put a little more money out but yes I'll admit at the time the amp was cheap and I got the sub for free from my brother so to spend another $300...I could almost use the amp I just got to run my mids and highs. Again...Thanks everyone!!

Edited December 5, 2010 by ac122345

[ac122345]

TeamHT is right, no trying to down you, just trying to learn ya, lol

there is a reason that most quality amplifiers that can do even 1000-1500 watts (RMS that is) are no cheaper than 200 new, if the number doesnt have RMS beside it, its not a real number the amp is capable of most likely

for just a little more money, you can get a proper monoblock for under 250 that does anywhere form 1000-1500 rms depending on the company audiopipe, audioque, hifonics

as previously stated you really do not want a multichannel amp to run your subs

The 350 watt RMS amp (2 channel, bridged into 4ohm) will work just fine for that sub. Why does everyone keep insisting that you can't use multi channel amps on subs? That amp isn't the best amp around but it will sure do him fine until he gets a better amp.

Of course you can use multichannels for subs...and monoblocks for your front stage...the point is...

Kynto never said you can't, he suggested the easier more efficient route.

Fair enough, there was another post that said monoblocks were for subs and multichannels were for mids and highs that I was more referring too. Although in this case, the 2 channel amp (aside from being cheap) really does work just fine for what this guy wants.

I see. Yeah, there is about a 30/70 mix of good and bad advice on the forum. Some...opinions and misinformation. I see where you are coming from though

Say I were to spend around $250-$350 on a "quality" amp...what would you suggest for the JL Audio 15? Im open for suggestion, obviously I posted on an open forum. Its only in my work car but I still want it (the system) to do some damage to the neighbors lol. I agree maybe I should do some more research but thats kinda why im here! Its not easy to post on a forum and get an immediate resopnse or even positive feedback. I do appreciate everyone's advice though. Mono or 2 channel, whatever it may be, let me know some decent amps in that price range. I've put a few thousand into other systems but didn't install myself. Its not really a problem to put a little more money out but yes I'll admit at the time the amp was cheap and I got the sub for free from my brother so to spend another $300...I could almost use the amp I just got to run my mids and highs. Again...Thanks everyone!!

Any thoughts on this Hfi Amp in reguards to the JL Audio 15.

Amplifier Class D

Number of Channels 1 - Mono

RMS Power (4 ohms) 475 watts x 1 channel

RMS Power (2 ohms) 750 watts x 1 channel

RMS Power (1 ohm) 1000 watts x 1 channel

Bridged RMS Power Not Bridgeable

Total RMS Power Output 1000 watts

Peak Power Output N/A

Total Peak Power Output N/A

Maximum Input Gauge Size 4

Minimum Impedance Unbridged 1 ohm

Minimum Impedance Bridged Not Bridgeable

THD at Rated RMS Power 95%

Speaker Level Inputs No

Preamp Outputs 1 pair

Built-in Crossover Low-pass (LP)

High-Pass Crossover Frequency N/A

Low-Pass Crossover Frequency 30 - 250 Hz

Subsonic Filter 15 - 35 Hz

Signal-to-Noise Ratio <0.1 dB

Channel Separation N/A

Bass Boost 0 - 10 dB

Bass/Gain Remote Yes

Fan Cooled No

Fuse Rating 80A x 1

HFi1000D - Hifonics Monoblock 1000 Watt HFi Series Amplifier HFi-1000D

Specifications:

JL Audio 15"

Size 15 -inch

Impedance 4 ohms

Cone Material Polypropylene

Surround Material Foam

Sealed Box Volume (cubic feet) 1.875

Ported Box Volume (cubic feet) 2.75

Port diameter (inches) 4

Port length (inches) 16.85

Free-Air No

Dual Voice Coil No

Sensitivity 88.2 dB at 1 volt

Frequency Response 20 - 200 Hz

RMS Power Range (Watts) 100-500

Peak Power Handling (Watts) 800

Top Mount Depth (inches) 7 1/8

Bottom Mount Depth (inches) N/A

Cutout Diameter or Length (inches) 13 3/4

Vas (liters) 144.6

Fs (Hz) 24.43

Qts 0.482

Xmax (millimeters) 12.7

[MrSkippyJ]

there was another poster who said something like that, so wouldnt you quote the person your talking in which your referencing, anyways as was said for my post i think the guy that stated the opinion about the mono or multis, was also meaning that it is best or at least typically practiced that most people use monos for subs and multis for mids/highs...some people may whole heartedly agree this iks how is must be done, just because thats how theyve always done it or because they believe in better efficiency, i dunno

i dont have a problem with people using multichannel amps, but the guy was talking about getting a new amp and not necessarily using the one he already has, so thats why i was stating the info ab out the amp he posted and why he could get a more powerful monoblock amp for just a bit more and it would work out better

to each there own, im all for that, i have a neighbor that swears by lightning audio and they just wont listen to reason, lol i was just trying to help, i have still not done my first major build but ive been doing research for a year, so i was just sort of suggesting the OP uses the search button on the site or google a bit, if after research he still wants to do the same thing, then its cool, but i beliueve in getting the best bang for your buck and if you can do that while also getting quality, efficient equipment, why not

what im referring to is that he stated he could get a 4000w amp for 180, (anyone in car audio that doesnt use RMS and assumes that any number in fornt of a w is what the amp will put out, needs to do more reading is what i believe), he stated that like he was getting an amazing deal and he might be if the amp puts out 2000rms, 1000 per channel like it states, but if he is gonna spend that much money, he could save slightly more and get a known quality amp which is also a class d mono

this i think is one of the main reasons TeamHT told him to go do more reading, albeit he should have told him why except for a generalization g of you dot know what your talking about, lol but thats why i added thew info in my post about the amp he was talking about..........thena gain much of this is just my opinion i understand

Yeah, I agree with you on everything. I missed that OP was wanting to get a new amp, I thought people were trying to talk him out of that one (that cheap) amp and I was just trying to say it will work. There was one poster who told him to ditch the multi channel and when another poster suggested a mono would be better, I just mis-read it to say you couldn't use a multi like that. Now that I read it again I see what he was saying.

Any thoughts on this Hfi Amp in reguards to the JL Audio 15.

HFi1000D - Hifonics Monoblock 1000 Watt HFi Series Amplifier HFi-1000D

Someone else can chime in on Hifonics, I don't know much about them, however this amp here will work well with your sub.

[ac122345]

there was another poster who said something like that, so wouldnt you quote the person your talking in which your referencing, anyways as was said for my post i think the guy that stated the opinion about the mono or multis, was also meaning that it is best or at least typically practiced that most people use monos for subs and multis for mids/highs...some people may whole heartedly agree this iks how is must be done, just because thats how theyve always done it or because they believe in better efficiency, i dunno

i dont have a problem with people using multichannel amps, but the guy was talking about getting a new amp and not necessarily using the one he already has, so thats why i was stating the info ab out the amp he posted and why he could get a more powerful monoblock amp for just a bit more and it would work out better

to each there own, im all for that, i have a neighbor that swears by lightning audio and they just wont listen to reason, lol i was just trying to help, i have still not done my first major build but ive been doing research for a year, so i was just sort of suggesting the OP uses the search button on the site or google a bit, if after research he still wants to do the same thing, then its cool, but i beliueve in getting the best bang for your buck and if you can do that while also getting quality, efficient equipment, why not

what im referring to is that he stated he could get a 4000w amp for 180, (anyone in car audio that doesnt use RMS and assumes that any number in fornt of a w is what the amp will put out, needs to do more reading is what i believe), he stated that like he was getting an amazing deal and he might be if the amp puts out 2000rms, 1000 per channel like it states, but if he is gonna spend that much money, he could save slightly more and get a known quality amp which is also a class d mono

this i think is one of the main reasons TeamHT told him to go do more reading, albeit he should have told him why except for a generalization g of you dot know what your talking about, lol but thats why i added thew info in my post about the amp he was talking about..........thena gain much of this is just my opinion i understand

Yeah, I agree with you on everything. I missed that OP was wanting to get a new amp, I thought people were trying to talk him out of that one (that cheap) amp and I was just trying to say it will work. There was one poster who told him to ditch the multi channel and when another poster suggested a mono would be better, I just mis-read it to say you couldn't use a multi like that. Now that I read it again I see what he was saying.

Any thoughts on this Hfi Amp in reguards to the JL Audio 15.

HFi1000D - Hifonics Monoblock 1000 Watt HFi Series Amplifier HFi-1000D

Someone else can chime in on Hifonics, I don't know much about them, however this amp here will work well with your sub.

Hey awesome! I was just looking at that EXACT amp last night. Might have to go for it!

[nCOMP1337]

there was another poster who said something like that, so wouldnt you quote the person your talking in which your referencing, anyways as was said for my post i think the guy that stated the opinion about the mono or multis, was also meaning that it is best or at least typically practiced that most people use monos for subs and multis for mids/highs...some people may whole heartedly agree this iks how is must be done, just because thats how theyve always done it or because they believe in better efficiency, i dunno

i dont have a problem with people using multichannel amps, but the guy was talking about getting a new amp and not necessarily using the one he already has, so thats why i was stating the info ab out the amp he posted and why he could get a more powerful monoblock amp for just a bit more and it would work out better

to each there own, im all for that, i have a neighbor that swears by lightning audio and they just wont listen to reason, lol i was just trying to help, i have still not done my first major build but ive been doing research for a year, so i was just sort of suggesting the OP uses the search button on the site or google a bit, if after research he still wants to do the same thing, then its cool, but i beliueve in getting the best bang for your buck and if you can do that while also getting quality, efficient equipment, why not

what im referring to is that he stated he could get a 4000w amp for 180, (anyone in car audio that doesnt use RMS and assumes that any number in fornt of a w is what the amp will put out, needs to do more reading is what i believe), he stated that like he was getting an amazing deal and he might be if the amp puts out 2000rms, 1000 per channel like it states, but if he is gonna spend that much money, he could save slightly more and get a known quality amp which is also a class d mono

this i think is one of the main reasons TeamHT told him to go do more reading, albeit he should have told him why except for a generalization g of you dot know what your talking about, lol but thats why i added thew info in my post about the amp he was talking about..........thena gain much of this is just my opinion i understand

Yeah, I agree with you on everything. I missed that OP was wanting to get a new amp, I thought people were trying to talk him out of that one (that cheap) amp and I was just trying to say it will work. There was one poster who told him to ditch the multi channel and when another poster suggested a mono would be better, I just mis-read it to say you couldn't use a multi like that. Now that I read it again I see what he was saying.

Any thoughts on this Hfi Amp in reguards to the JL Audio 15.

HFi1000D - Hifonics Monoblock 1000 Watt HFi Series Amplifier HFi-1000D

Someone else can chime in on Hifonics, I don't know much about them, however this amp here will work well with your sub.

Hey awesome! I was just looking at that EXACT amp last night. Might have to go for it!

i believe the hifi line of hifonics amps is not good, and doesnt do rated, but thats based on multiple opinions and thread readings, for me it seems majority of hifonics users go for the brutus line unless they get the big amps hifonics offer like colossus

that rockford amp is nice, i actually just sold mine to buy a fi ssd, lol and then im buying an aq1200 to run the fi ssd, that is also a good price for new, mine was 100 even slightly used and i sold it for 125, lol

that amp did me well, blew 1 fuse once, but was user error, never gave me an issue since, never got hot for me, it ran 2 15 inch kicker cvrs

[TeamHT]

HFi is the biggest shit under the hifonics name. EVER

[skittlesRgood]

4000 watts for $190...

Monos only for subs...

Max rated amps....

Sigh

i know... thinking the same thing buddy.

The 350 watt RMS amp (2 channel, bridged into 4ohm) will work just fine for that sub. Why does everyone keep insisting that you can't use multi channel amps on subs? That amp isn't the best amp around but it will sure do him fine until he gets a better amp.

the only real problem is that a person might hook up a 2 channel amp in stereo, with the subs in a common chamber. it would be like 2 amps that are constantly changing gains and never matched.

[TeamHT]

4000 watts for $190...

Monos only for subs...

Max rated amps....

Sigh

i know... thinking the same thing buddy.

The 350 watt RMS amp (2 channel, bridged into 4ohm) will work just fine for that sub. Why does everyone keep insisting that you can't use multi channel amps on subs? That amp isn't the best amp around but it will sure do him fine until he gets a better amp.

the only real problem is that a person might hook up a 2 channel amp in stereo, with the subs in a common chamber. it would be like 2 amps that are constantly changing gains and never matched.

bro dont i know it. i know not everyone pops out the womb knowing everything about car audio....but i really dont think even when i FIRST started off i thought things like this. i couldnt for the life of me thinking finding some pyramid 2000 watt amps for $95.99 on ebay were actually great deals. some expensive ass paper weights, lol

and man...i told him to do some research. cant be giving ALL the answers out, lol.