Kevin M

Entered for some more ID gear. Have some horns and I love em. Thx Sonics

Take a break but never quit. Amps can be fixed and speakers can be reconed. The problem is I get it to the point where I like it and then use the excuse of "dialing it in" to buy more equipment and change shit. lol So then I rationalize... "Well if I get a van I could turn my Malibu into an sq car and find a van to make absolutely retarded." What gets you in the end is the knowledge you gain. You look back and think I could do that much better now. You listen to your current system and think I should have went with a 12" in a sealed door pod instead of a 10" IB. "A poly midbass with my horns?", What the hell was I thinking? "I bet if I used a selenium or JBL pa driver the frontstage would sound much better." Being robbed is a big setback but it shouldn't take the fun out of the hobby. Happened to me a while back. They got the monitors, HU, and 3 of my v12's but I refused to give up. They even ripped the door pods off; the bastards. I just had the starter replaced in my car to the tune of $400 and change. Had to buy a fridge a while back too. I have to remind myself; stubbornly, to stay the course. Setbacks are temporary. I have a goal and I will be damned if anything will get in my way. If it takes a year I just don't care. hahaha Sorry for the long winded post but that is my way of telling you to just stick it out. If you want it bad enough keep chasing it.

i sat in here and i didn't feel the urge to get out start at 2:01. car does mid 50's on music EASY. hdc3's, not 4's like the title says. and he's upgraded power too. edit: if anyone is wondering, im the kid with the furry jacket at the end LOL That thing gets down. I remember how fucking cold it was that day too. That was my first demo in the mid 50's.

Don't know why but he reminded me of a young Flava Flav. hahaha Public enemy: The early years.

Definitely make a build thread. I wanna see some construction pics of the wall and the door cards. Cool vids btw

Nice Lem. Looking forward to hearing it again.

The video is of reskoone's old build from last year. It was loud ~50-51s. Got a couple demos of it last summer and I was impressed. Don't let anyone tell you that 8's don't get down. Here is another vid for reference but with 12 instead of 8. Sixdogs ftw. He has 8 15" dc in a sealed diamond now.

I have been looking at a bunch of processors and I may have found a lower cost alternative to the big boys. These are really popular with the HT crowd. I have seen them in a few car installs as well. Parametric and graphic 30 band EQ for L+R, adjustable x-over slopes and more. http://www.minidsp.com/products They also have add-ons for a rear and center channel. with the same processing power. Here is their forum http://www.minidsp.com/forum/7-car-audio-projects Any of the big dogs want to chime in on this?

Fiberglassing is crazy fun. I love it. If you have any questions don't be shy.

This is what I use and if I need to convert it for what ever reason I use format factory

I run all mbquart amps. I'll be upgrading to 3 Onyx 4.125 for my rebuild so no complaints here.

You can use a 12" for midbass but I wouldn't try it in a passive system. It can be done but active would be better. You can have overlapping x-over points too. Just experiment to see what sounds best. There location would depend on how high you are x'ing them over. Anything under ~4-500hz will be omnidirectional so they can go in the back door, front door, rear deck, kicks, etc. Keep in mind that the location in the car will change how they perform even given the same size enclosure so experiment. You don't have to be this critical but I thought I would throw that out there. In a lot of the systems I've seen and heard it is the rattles that localize the midbass speakers and not necessarily the freq. response. Hope that helps.

That looks FUN! Can't say say you would break any records or whatnot, but it would be a low end monster and an eye catcher. For sure. I bet you could put 4 of these in a sealed enclosure (~26-30cu.)dampened to all hell, stuffed with poly and foam. Yeah, the xmax and true power handling is weak sauce and your Fs would be in the high 30's but damn. It's a 21". 2-4 of them would do work. Couple that with cabin gain and you are looking at a beast that moves air on low wattage. I'm all for the WoW factor over being loud but that's just me.

I know some people are using them in an open baffle home setup. I'll look for the picture to give you an idea. I did manage to find an old school setup with 8 of them in a van By the Bye; here is a lower cost alternative. Thought about getting a few of these to play with in the car. I am sure that they wouldn't go ham lol but they would be a riot in the car. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/MCM-AUDIO-SELECT-55-2985-/55-2985

The ribbons look just like the ones from PE. I wonder how the price will compare. http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=275-085

I used mdf, exp. foam, and fiberglass. No foam or fiberglass is in contact with the headliner just the plastic pieces at the b pillar. When I redo the wall most of it should snap off and I can hit the panels with a little sandpaper and they are good as new.

Tell us about the speakers and amps you have now and we can find you a midbass for your application. If I'm reading this right you will have a gap in the freq. response. I would try to overlap the x-over points of the midbass and sub. For example my subs are crossed at 60 hz and my midbass play 60hz-1500. Your front mids shouldn't have any trouble playing low. Need more info homie.

If you want to go the IB route these are the subs I would recommend. http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=295-455&FTR=infinite%20baffle IB setups are fun and you can save trunk space. You will need to seal the trunk completely from the cabin. Any gaps will result in loss of bass and bad group delay. Some people use the vents in the trunk in an IB while others seal them. Sometimes it helps output, sometimes it doesn't. I had a IB setup in my Malibu last year. 2 18" on 120 watts. It sounded awesome. Don't expect any bone crushing bass though. It will give you a better freq. response though. I know a cat using these subs all the way up to 200 hz in an sq setup.

Surprised no one put this up yet.

It reminds me of those old Velodyne subs back in the nineties, but they ween't made for anything close to spl (120db) This a variation on that tech?

I found an article that is worth looking at. Patrick Bateman wrote it. He is a madman but brilliant when it comes to acoustics in a vehicle. http://www.diymobile...ne-tweeter.html I will amend this post if I can find anymore. another shorter one... http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/hlcd/123238-horns-midrange-only.html

How are you looking with your EQ setup on those horns ?? I only run a 7 band which is ok for the moment. When I get a 1/3 octave I can peel away everything and finally show what the horns are capable of. I have good stage height and width but the peaks in freq. response (mostly from 1-6k) are really putting the kaibosh on my system. It sounds good but needs to sound great. It seems to have moments where I am blown away by certain tracks so I know the potential is there. I saw an article from Eric Stevens (owner of ID) and he used a supertweeter and have been dying to try integrating them with the horns. I'll try to find the article. He was using TAD's to get the job done but a tweeter that is 105db 1w/1m should be up to the task. The problem is the sonic speed and dynamics of the horns are a hard act to follow..

I feel your pain my friend. I run the full bodies from ID. I have been at this problem myself and have come up with a couple options. One of which I will be pulling the trigger on soon. The problem is getting one to match the sensitivity. Here are a couple that should work. http://usspeaker.com/ciare%201.38tw-1.htm I'll be getting a pair of these to run in the A pillars. Note the size. 5.9" for a tweeter. lol Here is another to look at to look at. http://usspeaker.com/B&C-DE35-1.htm These will play a little higher than the horns but will still need some eq to get that 20k sparkle. lol http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/bullet-tweeters/fostex-ft17h-horn-super-tweeter/ This one will play all the way to 20k and then some but will be 10db less efficient than the horns. How many watts do you have on your horns now? Have you tried eq"ing? Due to the shape of the horns they have a natural rolloff of ~16k. You could also try a ribbon. I looked at some fancy pants aurum cantus and Fountek. Sensitivity isn't as high as I like but they do have a large diaphragm and that can make up for it. http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=276-438 http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/ribbon-tweeters/fountek-neocd2.0m-blk-5-ribbon-tweeter-rectangular-flange-black/ I would love to have a pair of these in my car but the Ciare's are a better fit for me.

I have heard them in a car and home setup. I liked them a lot and considered a 3 way with them and morel dome midranges before I got my horn setup. You won't be disappointed.

See, I guess loud is all subjective. We did 148.8 on two 15" BTLs on 1500 watts RMS walled, tuned to 38hz, not sealed off or electrical upgrades...stock 70 amp alternator You're right it is subjective. From the point of view of most people just getting into car audio anything over 140+ is pretty loud for a daily setup even if you're not really considered loud until you hit 150. lol You know what I mean? I think mine is still pretty loud and the subs do a hell of a job for what they are. no "butthurts". haha just throwing that out there.