D-train-13k Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 It also could be that the battery is bad, the voltage could be correct, but the amperage could be down which means your starter isn't getting the right burst of current. If you can get someone to come by and try to jump start it, and it starts, it's most likely that the cold cranking amps are down too low. thats true as well.. could be a bad cell. or two. which wont show up on DMM. youd have to do a load test on the battery Quote The IrishmanCheck out my build hereXL 4th order wall build logIn Progress:alpine cda HU4th order Bandpass2xl 15's1- ab 400.1 (gonna be two hopefully)4- Crescendo 8's2- xts crecendo supertweeters 2 sq super tweetsMb quart 4.125Mechman 270a alt1- xs D27003- xs XP3000 4- odessey pc1700seller feed back threadhttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/136418-d-train-13k/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatersGonnaHate Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 It also could be that the battery is bad, the voltage could be correct, but the amperage could be down which means your starter isn't getting the right burst of current. If you can get someone to come by and try to jump start it, and it starts, it's most likely that the cold cranking amps are down too low. thats true as well.. could be a bad cell. or two. which wont show up on DMM. youd have to do a load test on the battery Exactly! I found that out after dropping $250 on a new starter lol. I did every other test I could think of, then decided to get a new battery and it fixed the problem. Took the old battery into class and load tested it and found a bad cell. Shit happens. Quote My name is AdamThis is my Civic Build.7" Samsung Tab 2Kenwood KDC-X896Clarion EQS746Sundown X-15DC 3.5k @2ohmHatersGonnaHate's 02 Civic UBLELD Bypass for Honda Civic/Accord/FitDon's Jeep Grand Cherokee Rebuild N8ball2013 - i think you'd stick your dick in a blender if it told you it was 40 wtih two kids your age. lol srp365 - If posting were picking up bitches, I'd be going home single tonight looks like tony montana sneezed in your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerman Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 My man put a DMM to his battery instead of trying to jump it. That's how you know you got a true audio/electrical buff there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-train-13k Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 It also could be that the battery is bad, the voltage could be correct, but the amperage could be down which means your starter isn't getting the right burst of current. If you can get someone to come by and try to jump start it, and it starts, it's most likely that the cold cranking amps are down too low. thats true as well.. could be a bad cell. or two. which wont show up on DMM. youd have to do a load test on the battery Exactly! I found that out after dropping $250 on a new starter lol. I did every other test I could think of, then decided to get a new battery and it fixed the problem. Took the old battery into class and load tested it and found a bad cell. Shit happens. but it still doesnt explain the click. even with a dead cell it will be able to power interior lights and such. selenoid would cut all that out Quote The IrishmanCheck out my build hereXL 4th order wall build logIn Progress:alpine cda HU4th order Bandpass2xl 15's1- ab 400.1 (gonna be two hopefully)4- Crescendo 8's2- xts crecendo supertweeters 2 sq super tweetsMb quart 4.125Mechman 270a alt1- xs D27003- xs XP3000 4- odessey pc1700seller feed back threadhttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/136418-d-train-13k/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatersGonnaHate Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 It also could be that the battery is bad, the voltage could be correct, but the amperage could be down which means your starter isn't getting the right burst of current. If you can get someone to come by and try to jump start it, and it starts, it's most likely that the cold cranking amps are down too low. thats true as well.. could be a bad cell. or two. which wont show up on DMM. youd have to do a load test on the battery Exactly! I found that out after dropping $250 on a new starter lol. I did every other test I could think of, then decided to get a new battery and it fixed the problem. Took the old battery into class and load tested it and found a bad cell. Shit happens. but it still doesnt explain the click. even with a dead cell it will be able to power interior lights and such. selenoid would cut all that out It was a hit or miss with the interior lights. Sometimes it would click, sometimes it wouldn't, sometimes it would start right up . 2002 Chevy Trailblazer with the inline 6. Quote My name is AdamThis is my Civic Build.7" Samsung Tab 2Kenwood KDC-X896Clarion EQS746Sundown X-15DC 3.5k @2ohmHatersGonnaHate's 02 Civic UBLELD Bypass for Honda Civic/Accord/FitDon's Jeep Grand Cherokee Rebuild N8ball2013 - i think you'd stick your dick in a blender if it told you it was 40 wtih two kids your age. lol srp365 - If posting were picking up bitches, I'd be going home single tonight looks like tony montana sneezed in your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-train-13k Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 It also could be that the battery is bad, the voltage could be correct, but the amperage could be down which means your starter isn't getting the right burst of current. If you can get someone to come by and try to jump start it, and it starts, it's most likely that the cold cranking amps are down too low. thats true as well.. could be a bad cell. or two. which wont show up on DMM. youd have to do a load test on the battery Exactly! I found that out after dropping $250 on a new starter lol. I did every other test I could think of, then decided to get a new battery and it fixed the problem. Took the old battery into class and load tested it and found a bad cell. Shit happens. but it still doesnt explain the click. even with a dead cell it will be able to power interior lights and such. selenoid would cut all that out It was a hit or miss with the interior lights. Sometimes it would click, sometimes it wouldn't, sometimes it would start right up . 2002 Chevy Trailblazer with the inline 6. it could have been a combination of the two. did you take your starter back ? or just keep it. Quote The IrishmanCheck out my build hereXL 4th order wall build logIn Progress:alpine cda HU4th order Bandpass2xl 15's1- ab 400.1 (gonna be two hopefully)4- Crescendo 8's2- xts crecendo supertweeters 2 sq super tweetsMb quart 4.125Mechman 270a alt1- xs D27003- xs XP3000 4- odessey pc1700seller feed back threadhttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/136418-d-train-13k/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickass audio Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Heres what i had happen the one time i got bass happy and blasted my system on the crappy walmart battery i had in my old car. I was cranking my music in the parking lot up quite a bit for 20 minutes before class and then i had left the car and went to class. When i came out to class i was able to unlock the doors remotely with my remote starter remote that i have but when i tried to start the engine all you could hear was a fast clicking noise whenever i had the key turned to start. I also noticed that my gauges in my dash would jump up and down with the clicks i heard from the starter not getting enough power to start. I also saw that my lights inside the car would dip down quite a bit and have a yellowish tint to them because the voltage was dropping down so far. After i figured it was the battery not having enough power in it i had a girl in my colleges parking lot jump my car for a minute and i was able to start the car just fine. My solenoid was trying to get engaged but since the amperage was down so far it wasnt enough to turn the starter around. I was able to turn on my radio, lights, and lock/unlock all the doors in the vehicle with no problem since they dont draw a ton of current to make them work. It could easily be a battery issue where you have a dead cell or two. I have this issue with my dads Tahoe. He has a 6 year old battery under his hood and the battery and the resting voltage is only at 11.7v so it is deff on its way out but he has a bad cell. The reason i can tell he has a bad cell even though his truck starts up is that there is a good amount of voltage drop with basic electronics being turned on in the truck. I tested the alt on his truck both at autozone and with my own clamp and meter and i have full power on the alt and it does charge at 14.3v and puts out its correct amperage. The issue is that whenever you have the turn signals on the voltage meter in the dash will bob up and down with the lights turning on and off and the voltage drops even more when the fan for the interior of the truck gets turned on. Point is, if your battery is dying it would let some things work but the starter is the only electronic part of your vehicles stock electrical that will draw the most current. Quote 2004 GMC Envoy1 XS power S3400 batt under the hood and 4 XS Power D3100's battery installed in the rear by the amps0 gauge power wire from front to backAlpine iva-w205 touchscreen dvd/cd/mp3/ipod/am/fm/gps headunitSundown Audio SAX-200.4 amp for my mids and highs8 gauge speaker wire from amp to woofer270 amp Mechman AltRockford Fosgate T1652-s component speakersRockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 sound processorRca's from Rockford Fosgate and Monster Cable14 gauge speaker wire for the mids and highs1 18" Ascendant Audio SMD Dual 1 ohm with custom Black & Blue carbon fiber and hand signed dustcapBox: 5.66 cubic feet net volume box tuned to 30.13Hz with 1.5" wide wooden dowels and 1.5" thick baffle1 DC Audio 5.0k amp wired to .5 ohms nominal with an imp rise of 1.35 ohms for the single AA SMD 18"Future Vision 8000k 50w bi-xenon projector HID's with 4300k 35w fog lightsLink to my build: Buildupdates/progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatersGonnaHate Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 It also could be that the battery is bad, the voltage could be correct, but the amperage could be down which means your starter isn't getting the right burst of current. If you can get someone to come by and try to jump start it, and it starts, it's most likely that the cold cranking amps are down too low. thats true as well.. could be a bad cell. or two. which wont show up on DMM. youd have to do a load test on the battery Exactly! I found that out after dropping $250 on a new starter lol. I did every other test I could think of, then decided to get a new battery and it fixed the problem. Took the old battery into class and load tested it and found a bad cell. Shit happens. but it still doesnt explain the click. even with a dead cell it will be able to power interior lights and such. selenoid would cut all that out It was a hit or miss with the interior lights. Sometimes it would click, sometimes it wouldn't, sometimes it would start right up . 2002 Chevy Trailblazer with the inline 6. it could have been a combination of the two. did you take your starter back ? or just keep it. I just kept it. Might as well keep it in there so it doesn't need to be changed anytime soon. Quote My name is AdamThis is my Civic Build.7" Samsung Tab 2Kenwood KDC-X896Clarion EQS746Sundown X-15DC 3.5k @2ohmHatersGonnaHate's 02 Civic UBLELD Bypass for Honda Civic/Accord/FitDon's Jeep Grand Cherokee Rebuild N8ball2013 - i think you'd stick your dick in a blender if it told you it was 40 wtih two kids your age. lol srp365 - If posting were picking up bitches, I'd be going home single tonight looks like tony montana sneezed in your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-train-13k Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Heres what i had happen the one time i got bass happy and blasted my system on the crappy walmart battery i had in my old car. I was cranking my music in the parking lot up quite a bit for 20 minutes before class and then i had left the car and went to class. When i came out to class i was able to unlock the doors remotely with my remote starter remote that i have but when i tried to start the engine all you could hear was a fast clicking noise whenever i had the key turned to start. I also noticed that my gauges in my dash would jump up and down with the clicks i heard from the starter not getting enough power to start. I also saw that my lights inside the car would dip down quite a bit and have a yellowish tint to them because the voltage was dropping down so far. After i figured it was the battery not having enough power in it i had a girl in my colleges parking lot jump my car for a minute and i was able to start the car just fine. My solenoid was trying to get engaged but since the amperage was down so far it wasnt enough to turn the starter around. I was able to turn on my radio, lights, and lock/unlock all the doors in the vehicle with no problem since they dont draw a ton of current to make them work. It could easily be a battery issue where you have a dead cell or two. I have this issue with my dads Tahoe. He has a 6 year old battery under his hood and the battery and the resting voltage is only at 11.7v so it is deff on its way out but he has a bad cell. The reason i can tell he has a bad cell even though his truck starts up is that there is a good amount of voltage drop with basic electronics being turned on in the truck. I tested the alt on his truck both at autozone and with my own clamp and meter and i have full power on the alt and it does charge at 14.3v and puts out its correct amperage. The issue is that whenever you have the turn signals on the voltage meter in the dash will bob up and down with the lights turning on and off and the voltage drops even more when the fan for the interior of the truck gets turned on. Point is, if your battery is dying it would let some things work but the starter is the only electronic part of your vehicles stock electrical that will draw the most current. thats true. a starter draws like 120Amps. having dead cell in your battery is bad for you soundsystem as well as any other batterys that are in your vehicle. Quote The IrishmanCheck out my build hereXL 4th order wall build logIn Progress:alpine cda HU4th order Bandpass2xl 15's1- ab 400.1 (gonna be two hopefully)4- Crescendo 8's2- xts crecendo supertweeters 2 sq super tweetsMb quart 4.125Mechman 270a alt1- xs D27003- xs XP3000 4- odessey pc1700seller feed back threadhttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/136418-d-train-13k/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Sanchez.A Posted August 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Funny thing is my uncle suggested boosting the car. Also, having a dead cell wouldn't surprise me considering it's the original battery from 2002. I think what I will do is charge up my spare battery, and then install it and see if every thing works better. Quote Click Links To View Build Logs 1994 - Mazda B3000 (Daily/Toy/Show) 2002 - Mazda Protege (Daily) 1995 - Hyundai Accent (R.I.P.) 1984 - Bronco II (Restoration Project) Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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