carshateme Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Okay...a while back a guy I talked to who was an audiophile said if you have a small inner cabin space...your subs would want to be sealed...and big inner cabin space would be ported.. Only reason I'm asking this question is because I have a Buick Skylark...the inner cabin isn't really that big and I'm deciding on either to build a ported box...or keep the sealed box that I have now. Thank you. Quote New build coming soon. [center][url="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/sigtoo.jpg/"][img]http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9541/sigtoo.jpg[/img][/url][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQMonte Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Cabin size surely factors in to the equation, not necessarily for what type of box to use but surely to plot out the response of said enclosure. The TS specs of the sub determines what enclosure it would be better suited for. Quote Alpine CDA-117...Memphis 16-X03 CDT Audio SQA-4100...SEAS Prestige H1396...Crescendo MP-6 Soundstream Rubicon 1.2500d...Digital Designs 3512f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teardrop Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 what he said ^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carshateme Posted December 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Cabin size surely factors in to the equation, not necessarily for what type of box to use but surely to plot out the response of said enclosure. The TS specs of the sub determines what enclosure it would be better suited for. So what would you suggest for a sub that has Qts: .47 Qes: .51 Qms: 4.9 Vas: 35L Vas: 1.24ft^3 ??? Quote New build coming soon. [center][url="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/sigtoo.jpg/"][img]http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9541/sigtoo.jpg[/img][/url][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baaudio Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Fs vas and qts are important factors from my understanding. Qts of .4 or less ported and .5 or more sealed Quote Team NWSPL baaudio Build Log 2001 GMC Sierra walkthrough 4 Mechman Elite 370s, 10 AGM batteries, 3 Crossfire XS v2 18s, Crossfire 8k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carshateme Posted December 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Well in my manual ...for my subwoofers...it says something like and EBP of less than 45 is for sealed...and greater than 65 for a ported box...although the EBP of my subs are 56...so that's what I'm confused on. Quote New build coming soon. [center][url="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/sigtoo.jpg/"][img]http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9541/sigtoo.jpg[/img][/url][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 What type of Subs are they? Quote Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQMonte Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Well in my manual ...for my subwoofers...it says something like and EBP of less than 45 is for sealed...and greater than 65 for a ported box...although the EBP of my subs are 56...so that's what I'm confused on. I'm no pro, but it seems to me they can be used equally well in either. Generally, ported boxes will be louder, but sealed will allow better power handling. Sealed boxes can hit just as low as ported too. Quote Alpine CDA-117...Memphis 16-X03 CDT Audio SQA-4100...SEAS Prestige H1396...Crescendo MP-6 Soundstream Rubicon 1.2500d...Digital Designs 3512f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe X Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 You have 2 different issues that you should not confuse: 1) what enclosure is better for a particular sub. 2) what type of enclosure is better for a particular cabin For question 1 you calculate the following as a general rule: EBP = Fs/Qes <50 sealed. >100 Ported. between 50 and 100 you could use in either. For question 2 sealed will usually give you better transient response and lower group delay plus this: Since sealed has a roll-off of 12dB/octave and cabin gain raises at 12db/Octave starting at 50-90Hz you can get to cancel each other giving you a perfectly flat low frequency response. So properly used sealed is best for SQ. If your cabin is huge you can't get that and then ported is the better way to get bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 You have 2 different issues that you should not confuse: 1) what enclosure is better for a particular sub. 2) what type of enclosure is better for a particular cabin For question 1 you calculate the following as a general rule: EBP = Fs/Qes <50 sealed. >100 Ported. between 50 and 100 you could use in either. For question 2 sealed will usually give you better transient response and lower group delay plus this: Since sealed has a roll-off of 12dB/octave and cabin gain raises at 12db/Octave starting at 50-90Hz you can get to cancel each other giving you a perfectly flat low frequency response. So properly used sealed is best for SQ. If your cabin is huge you can't get that and then ported is the better way to get bass. What he said ^^ Most of the time SQ= sealed. SPL=ported. But if your good with ported boxes and you have room just make a huge box and tune very very low and you will have plenty of SQ. Quote Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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