meade916 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Seems like a great product for someone using the amp's xovers on an amp for an "active" setup, but then it'd jus be good for a base point because I personally like to adjust the xovers by ear. I do love my DD-1 though. I'm sure many would like to see the DD-1 and CC-1 combined to one product. setting your crossovers by ear is fine if you dont care about precision. You might think its at 8Ohz when its really at 62 (or 102 for that matter) Really, a few hz wont matter too much in a single subwoofer amp situation. 62, 8O, 102, who cares LOL - but if you have more then one amp on the woofers, it starts to matter more. It becomes less of a preference and more of a necessity. I mean, if you have 2 amps and 2 subs (especially the same chamber), its a lot more important to nail the x-overs on both then it would be if it was just one amp. Same thing if you had 2, 2 channel amps running each set of door panels. Even a 4 channel. I personally would want my x-overs to be the same. You cant do that by ear. if you are running fully active and leaving the amps on full-pass, and have a digital processor in front of them.......then you may or may not need to use this product. Depends on which crossover you are using. regardless, this isnt a toy, its a TOOL. So if you think you will only use it once and never use it again, maybe it isnt for you. If you are a car audio NUT like me, and know you will want to be PRECISE for the rest of your life from here on out, then it IS for you. If you don't care, and prefer to guess all your settings, more power to you. Quote All SMD products + MORE available at my store here! https://wccaraudio.com/ Subscribe to My Youtube Channel! Over 1,000,000 subscribers strong! Turn on your notifications! http://www.youtube.com/meade916 Follow My Instagram! Daily live feeds from the shop, exclusive content way before it hits my Youtube channel...and little squares with photo's in them http://www.instagram.com/meade916 The Official SMD Facebook fan Page https://www.facebook.com/SteveMeadeDesigns/ Follow my Tweet (Twitter) http://www.Twitter.com/meade916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 dont forget about those amps that have a number at each end for the crossover point with nothing in between. You can only speculate where the crossover point is set on those and there are a lot of them like that. Quote THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meade916 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 dont forget about those amps that have a number at each end for the crossover point with nothing in between. You can only speculate where the crossover point is set on those and there are a lot of them like that. this ^^^^^ even if it has numbers every 10hz (which i RARELY, IF EVER, Have seen), you still are not going to nail it. The chances of that silk-screen logo matching up with your screwdriver-eyeball is slim to none. The only way would be if your amp adjustment actually "clicked" at each frequency, telling you you are on the right number. (if that makes sense). I have never seen an amp that did that. Some high end crossovers but never an amp. (not saying there isn't one though) its usually 50-400hz (or so) with a whole lot of nothing in between...i, like most of you, have been guessing all my life - so im not better then anyone else lol - but not anymore! Quote All SMD products + MORE available at my store here! https://wccaraudio.com/ Subscribe to My Youtube Channel! Over 1,000,000 subscribers strong! Turn on your notifications! http://www.youtube.com/meade916 Follow My Instagram! Daily live feeds from the shop, exclusive content way before it hits my Youtube channel...and little squares with photo's in them http://www.instagram.com/meade916 The Official SMD Facebook fan Page https://www.facebook.com/SteveMeadeDesigns/ Follow my Tweet (Twitter) http://www.Twitter.com/meade916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapaynem4 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) I received mine yesterday. I have been using the x-over on my Kenwood HU set at 80hz. Today I used my CC-1 to set the x-over on my Kicker ZX1500. It was super simple and only took about 5 minutes. Call me crazy but I swear it sounds better !! Thanks for another great product guys!!!!!! Edited February 5, 2012 by lapaynem4 Quote Kenwood KDC-BT33 Sundown Audio SAE-100.4 - 4 Crescendo Audio SC-650s Sundown Audio SCV-6000D @ (.5 ohm) - 2 DC Audio LVL5 M5 Elite 15s (d2) 6.45 ft Box ( Net ) tuned to 30 Hz - ( APM - 2 = 151.2 db ) 2004 Chevrolet Trailblazer LS 4WD Brand X 390 Alternator - XS Power PSC30 XS Power D3400 (front) - 3 XS Power D3100s (rear) Knukoncepts Kolossus Flex 1/0 - SMD Meters - SMD Fuse Holders Sky High Copper Battery Terminals - Amp Lab RPMC v2 SPL Cartel Bass Knob - Toolmaker Copper Amp Inputs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meade916 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I received mine yesterday. I have been using the x-over on my Kenwood HU set at 80hz. Today I used my CC-1 to set the x-over on my Kicker ZX1500. It was super simple and only took about 5 minutes. Call me crazy but I swear it sounds better !! Thanks for another great product guys!!!!!! love to hear that!!! Quote All SMD products + MORE available at my store here! https://wccaraudio.com/ Subscribe to My Youtube Channel! Over 1,000,000 subscribers strong! Turn on your notifications! http://www.youtube.com/meade916 Follow My Instagram! Daily live feeds from the shop, exclusive content way before it hits my Youtube channel...and little squares with photo's in them http://www.instagram.com/meade916 The Official SMD Facebook fan Page https://www.facebook.com/SteveMeadeDesigns/ Follow my Tweet (Twitter) http://www.Twitter.com/meade916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civicman Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I used my cc1 and the dd1 one all the time . It make the work faster and no worrys Quote B slap yo mama twice Team Bassick Nyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickass audio Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 dont forget about those amps that have a number at each end for the crossover point with nothing in between. You can only speculate where the crossover point is set on those and there are a lot of them like that. this ^^^^^ even if it has numbers every 10hz (which i RARELY, IF EVER, Have seen), you still are not going to nail it. The chances of that silk-screen logo matching up with your screwdriver-eyeball is slim to none. The only way would be if your amp adjustment actually "clicked" at each frequency, telling you you are on the right number. (if that makes sense). I have never seen an amp that did that. Some high end crossovers but never an amp. (not saying there isn't one though) its usually 50-400hz (or so) with a whole lot of nothing in between...i, like most of you, have been guessing all my life - so im not better then anyone else lol - but not anymore! Not trying to bash you Steve, i have the DD-1 and CC-1 and i LOVEEEE them. But I have and still have a Precision Power PC-2350 amp and it does 1400w rms at 4 ohms since its a 2 channel amp. The x-over for the lowpass has detents or clicks on it like you described. The bass boost (pfft who uses those) also had them so you know how many db's you are boosting at. So like you said its rare but they are out there. But for anyone who thinks they will only use it once it wont matter. The quality of the product and the quality of your system because of using them both will be amazing. I used to have it like Steve said with setting the amps at full pass and using the x-over settings on my 3sixty.2 but the .2 i have screws up and isnt that accurate as i found out. What i set to 60Hz highpass is really 65Hz and the CC-1 had found this. Now i have a precise system and it is sounding better than ever. I also used the cc-1 on my amps x-over settings so if my 3sixty.2 decides to fail on the x-over settings like it did to my SMD before and make it bottom out so i set the x-overs on both to make them as accurate as possible and i am so happy with the results of it. So just thinking your sound processor will do the work isnt always the case. Spend the money and get them both and you will be happy. Ive tuned my system (mids and highs only for now, my sub amp isnt in as my SMD is getting reconed by myself) and my co-workers car and it sounds great. Quote 2004 GMC Envoy1 XS power S3400 batt under the hood and 4 XS Power D3100's battery installed in the rear by the amps0 gauge power wire from front to backAlpine iva-w205 touchscreen dvd/cd/mp3/ipod/am/fm/gps headunitSundown Audio SAX-200.4 amp for my mids and highs8 gauge speaker wire from amp to woofer270 amp Mechman AltRockford Fosgate T1652-s component speakersRockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 sound processorRca's from Rockford Fosgate and Monster Cable14 gauge speaker wire for the mids and highs1 18" Ascendant Audio SMD Dual 1 ohm with custom Black & Blue carbon fiber and hand signed dustcapBox: 5.66 cubic feet net volume box tuned to 30.13Hz with 1.5" wide wooden dowels and 1.5" thick baffle1 DC Audio 5.0k amp wired to .5 ohms nominal with an imp rise of 1.35 ohms for the single AA SMD 18"Future Vision 8000k 50w bi-xenon projector HID's with 4300k 35w fog lightsLink to my build: Buildupdates/progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHRISS Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Seems like a great product for someone using the amp's xovers on an amp for an "active" setup, but then it'd jus be good for a base point because I personally like to adjust the xovers by ear. I do love my DD-1 though. I'm sure many would like to see the DD-1 and CC-1 combined to one product. setting your crossovers by ear is fine if you dont care about precision. You might think its at 8Ohz when its really at 62 (or 102 for that matter) Really, a few hz wont matter too much in a single subwoofer amp situation. 62, 8O, 102, who cares LOL - but if you have more then one amp on the woofers, it starts to matter more. It becomes less of a preference and more of a necessity. I mean, if you have 2 amps and 2 subs (especially the same chamber), its a lot more important to nail the x-overs on both then it would be if it was just one amp. Same thing if you had 2, 2 channel amps running each set of door panels. Even a 4 channel. I personally would want my x-overs to be the same. You cant do that by ear. if you are running fully active and leaving the amps on full-pass, and have a digital processor in front of them.......then you may or may not need to use this product. Depends on which crossover you are using. regardless, this isnt a toy, its a TOOL. So if you think you will only use it once and never use it again, maybe it isnt for you. If you are a car audio NUT like me, and know you will want to be PRECISE for the rest of your life from here on out, then it IS for you. If you don't care, and prefer to guess all your settings, more power to you. STEVE LETS SAY A 6-Channel Digital Crossover and Equalizer 3-way Crossover1/3 Octave / 1/2 octave equalization per channel 2 Parametric equalizers per channel 24db/octave linkwitz riley alignment crossover PFM subsonic filter and Digital Frequency Adjustment would the CC1 be needed for this ????? just to be clear Edited March 9, 2012 by KHRISS Quote CURRENT SYSTEM (VEHICLE) 2005 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE (HEAD UNIT) KENWOOD KDC BT848U (DASHBOARD) INFINITY KAPPA 32.9CF (FRONT DOOR) JBL P693 (REAR DOOR) KENWOOD EXCELON KFC-X1730 (TWEETER) KICKER KS25 X 2 (SUB WOOFER) COMING SOON (4 CHANNEL AMP) ROCKFORD FOSGATE T1000-4ADCP (1 CHANNEL AMP) ROCKFORD FOSGATE T2500BDCP X 2 (PROCESSORS) AUDIOCONTROL DQXS & EPICENTER & MATRIX PLUS & DDC (BATTERY) 1 OPTIMA YELLOW TOP (SIGNAL WIRES) KICKER XI (POWER CABLES) KICKER PKD1 (SPEAKER WIRE) KICKER 12 GAUGE (INTERIOR) DYNAMAT COMING SOON 2 FI SP4 18 COMING SOON 2 XS POWER XP3000 COMING SOON DC POWER 270XP ALT COMING SOON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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