Johny B Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Hey guys, its time for me to upgrade my system. It is going into the car in my sig. (Trunk build). My question is will 2 12s in a proper enclosure really be better than 2 15s in a smaller than spec enclosure and why?? Subs will be 2 dc xl's on a dc 5k. Thanks 06 Chrysler 300 Pioneer avh-x8500bhs Hertz Hsk 130.4 Alpine mrp-F600 2 Dc level 4 12s Dc 2k Viper 5901 SHCA wiring KnuKonceptz RCA's SecondSkin/Fatmat Big 3-stock alt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamminBeats Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 yes its better (from my experience) alot of factors but, you might just run into problems when not giving a sub the proper air space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarG0721 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I say sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't if ur chocking the speakers to much them yeah but if not I like cone area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToNasty Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I have blown out a sub with a box that was to small. And an enclosure thats to big can sound shitty. Im just soeaking from my experiences. That why sub manufacturers give an air space number that the sub works in ***Super Sellers List***http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/25829-super-sellers-buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortezDTV Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Yes subs need to breathe If you dont have enough space ur going to be loosing output 15s need at least 3 cubic feet each.... plus a massive port.... that's prolly not gonna happen! my box for my 15s is huge about 10 cubes with full external port... i wish it was bigger... but to make up for it i massively overpower my subs which i WOULD NOT RECCOMEND SCSB Santa Cruz Speaker Box Build logs: Daily Driver Lemon Marquis 2 american bass 750.1s 350.4 on 14 focal 6.5s sq 945 on 4 hertz tweeters Mystery subs http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 The Mustang 'dubbed' Shirley the project from bullet holes to badass http://www.stevemead...cond-skin-time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
412 CVX Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Because in a tiny ass box, you won't be able to get enough volume and port area, therefore starving the subs of output, and likely getting a ton of port noise. also, you run into the risk of the subs not being able to cool themselves properly, because there's too much back pressure, and the coil doesn't move as much as it should. With 12's you can have a proper size box, with plenty of port area. you don't run the risk of blowing your subs nearly as much as the 15's because the coil would move more and be able to properly cool it's self. a friend of mine (irpirate) has a 6th order with 4 subs. he started out with 18's, but had to switch because his box was too small and the subs weren't cooling properly. he switched to 15s and actually gained on the meter. The enclosure holds the most responsibility in how a system sounds. Just say no to Ground Pounder Customs. My temp system build log More box buildssome cars do over 170db with one sub, so clearly my two 12"s can do that in my car, with my knowledge too! look out bitches! I'm with captain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamminBeats Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Because in a tiny ass box, you won't be able to get enough volume and port area, therefore starving the subs of output, and likely getting a ton of port noise. also, you run into the risk of the subs not being able to cool themselves properly, because there's too much back pressure, and the coil doesn't move as much as it should. With 12's you can have a proper size box, with plenty of port area. you don't run the risk of blowing your subs nearly as much as the 15's because the coil would move more and be able to properly cool it's self. a friend of mine (irpirate) has a 6th order with 4 subs. he started out with 18's, but had to switch because his box was too small and the subs weren't cooling properly. he switched to 15s and actually gained on the meter. The enclosure holds the most responsibility in how a system sounds. if you had a dollar for everytime you had to write this....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortezDTV Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I have blown out a sub with a box that was to small. How the fuck did u do that? Ive put a 12 in a box for an 18 and had no problems.... . I think u messed something up SCSB Santa Cruz Speaker Box Build logs: Daily Driver Lemon Marquis 2 american bass 750.1s 350.4 on 14 focal 6.5s sq 945 on 4 hertz tweeters Mystery subs http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 The Mustang 'dubbed' Shirley the project from bullet holes to badass http://www.stevemead...cond-skin-time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortezDTV Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 The enclosure holds the most responsibility in how a system sounds. This! SCSB Santa Cruz Speaker Box Build logs: Daily Driver Lemon Marquis 2 american bass 750.1s 350.4 on 14 focal 6.5s sq 945 on 4 hertz tweeters Mystery subs http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 The Mustang 'dubbed' Shirley the project from bullet holes to badass http://www.stevemead...cond-skin-time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassHead1990 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I have blown out a sub with a box that was to small. How the fuck did u do that? Ive put a 12 in a box for an 18 and had no problems.... . I think u messed something up I have had that happen to two of my 12s, I got this box from someone build for 4 12's but it was sealed and really small and I put two 600rms subs in and one blew out or just stop playing all together so I replaced it with another one and then the other one went out. so I put the last one in a small walmart box and sold it to someone, then what to do you know, it went out. all I know if that they were all in really small enclosures, Idk if they went out from too much flex. idk it was just a weird pattern. P.S. everything was wire correctly real basic setup mono block etc.... (2007 Chevy Tahoe LT) Mechman 320A OEM AGM D'Amore Engineering HLC-2 Sig Converter D'Amore Engineering E1500.1 Fi Audio Neo 3.5 12" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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