94jettameowpsst Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Is this possible to do or strictly blasphemous on this site? Only reason I ask is because I don't have access to a dd1 and very limited access to an oscope which I have no idea how to use in the first place. Now if the gain on an amp is from .2-6 and you have 4v preamp outs what'd be a safe place to set the gain to? 150.1 @ 38hz142.3 @ 20hz (windows down)Only 2 batteries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 its a guess at best. Its how we did it for years befoer we all wised up. some people will tell you its fine. I wont do it THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHR Ed Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Use your ears. Sometimes that is the best equipment you can use. You do want to keep it on the lower end of the scale for a 4v head unit. Turn volume up to the max undistorted volume. Then turn gain up until you hear distortion. Once you do, back it down a touch. Ed Lester ShowtimeSPL Host Showtime Electronics Video MarketingMy old Build Loghttp://www.stevemead...08/#entry511451http://www.youtube.com/showtimespl 5 time dB Drag Finalist Last ride 2007 HHR, current dB 153.5 and bass race 149.4 dB. 153.0 dB on music New Ride, 2008 HHR SS. Build under way. Loudest score ever = 171dB 2009 dB Drag Racing, North American Points Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Use your ears. Sometimes that is the best equipment you can use. You do want to keep it on the lower end of the scale for a 4v head unit. Turn volume up to the max undistorted volume. Then turn gain up until you hear distortion. Once you do, back it down a touch. ed, there is no real way for him to know the max undistorted volume without any equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordlordboy1234 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 If you don't know, and have no way of setting properly with a DD1. Then I would just set it very conservative if its for bass, and if its for mids and highs I would turn it up AS LITTLE as possible until I set it right. I know someone will rip on me for my next statement. But IMO you can afford to soft clip subs more then you can afford ANY clip on a mid or tweeter. Basically... Get or find a DD1. I think there is a section on here where there is a map of EVERYONE on SMD with a dd1 and their location in the United States. Someone help me with a link to that section. My old YouTube channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/SwordLords1234?feature=mhee My old build log : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/161872-96-accord-b2-sundown-sky-high-dc-power-re-re-build-for-heatwave/page-37 My New Build - http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/207041-2016-mazda-6-sql-build/ 2016 Mazda 6 Touring JL Fix 86 - OEM signal correction B2 prototype DSP 6to8 B2 Ref63 - 3 way active set 2 B2 Class H quattro's 1 B2 Zero.5R @.5 2 B2 HNv3 12 d2 B2 SLIP40 - Lithium in the trunk Northstar Group 35 under the hood 100ft 2/0 welding cable 30ft 4ga welding cable 20ft 8ga welding cable All stinger OFC speaker wire Soundrive custom RCA's Tons of attention to detail.... Can it be perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordlordboy1234 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Use your ears. Sometimes that is the best equipment you can use. You do want to keep it on the lower end of the scale for a 4v head unit. Turn volume up to the max undistorted volume. Then turn gain up until you hear distortion. Once you do, back it down a touch. ed, there is no real way for him to know the max undistorted volume without any equipment. X2 My old YouTube channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/SwordLords1234?feature=mhee My old build log : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/161872-96-accord-b2-sundown-sky-high-dc-power-re-re-build-for-heatwave/page-37 My New Build - http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/207041-2016-mazda-6-sql-build/ 2016 Mazda 6 Touring JL Fix 86 - OEM signal correction B2 prototype DSP 6to8 B2 Ref63 - 3 way active set 2 B2 Class H quattro's 1 B2 Zero.5R @.5 2 B2 HNv3 12 d2 B2 SLIP40 - Lithium in the trunk Northstar Group 35 under the hood 100ft 2/0 welding cable 30ft 4ga welding cable 20ft 8ga welding cable All stinger OFC speaker wire Soundrive custom RCA's Tons of attention to detail.... Can it be perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordlordboy1234 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I normally assumed that max volume on most head units where 75% of max volume. But my pioneer 7400 (newest model) has a max volume of 62. 1k clips at 60/62 and 40hz clips at 61/62. Thanks to my DD1 I found tht info out using the -0 db. And then set all my gains with -5 db for safety and always play the cleanest music I can find My old YouTube channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/SwordLords1234?feature=mhee My old build log : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/161872-96-accord-b2-sundown-sky-high-dc-power-re-re-build-for-heatwave/page-37 My New Build - http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/207041-2016-mazda-6-sql-build/ 2016 Mazda 6 Touring JL Fix 86 - OEM signal correction B2 prototype DSP 6to8 B2 Ref63 - 3 way active set 2 B2 Class H quattro's 1 B2 Zero.5R @.5 2 B2 HNv3 12 d2 B2 SLIP40 - Lithium in the trunk Northstar Group 35 under the hood 100ft 2/0 welding cable 30ft 4ga welding cable 20ft 8ga welding cable All stinger OFC speaker wire Soundrive custom RCA's Tons of attention to detail.... Can it be perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterJohnson Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 People have been setting amps by ear for years and years. Even now when you dd-1 an amp you still set your volume by ear. A dd-1 ensures no clipping but even lots of clean power can blow equipment if its too much power. Anyways tune with your ear, no bass boost preferably, and I generally end up putting the gain a little below half way for a 4v clean signal. About 3/5 up for 2v signal. With a dd-1 it's about the same as well Scion tC SQ BuildiPad mini, lots of fabrication, daily drivenFord Explorer C Pillar Wall Build Just a cheap car to destroy with bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheena Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 People have been setting amps by ear for years and years. Even now when you dd-1 an amp you still set your volume by ear. A dd-1 ensures no clipping but even lots of clean power can blow equipment if its too much power. Anyways tune with your ear, no bass boost preferably, and I generally end up putting the gain a little below half way for a 4v clean signal. About 3/5 up for 2v signal. With a dd-1 it's about the same as well pretty much this, i had my gains set with a DD-1 but i was pretty close with my ear anyways. hearing distortion if you can is easy. especially when all your friends and family have their gain maxed, bass boost maxed, and head unit maxed, you get a very keen ear for what distortion sounds like. now clipping on the other hand, mostly done by the terrible quality of music out there. 09 Civic EX KDC-X395 (2) SKAR Audio VVX-12 Skar Audio SK-1500.1 4 cu ft @32 (new box and more port soon) Firing Forward not sealed off Stock 80 Amp Alt Big 3 In 1/0 Knu 2 Runs To The Back 1 Pos 1 Neg In 1/0 Knu DD-1'd 13.8v drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterJohnson Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 People have been setting amps by ear for years and years. Even now when you dd-1 an amp you still set your volume by ear. A dd-1 ensures no clipping but even lots of clean power can blow equipment if its too much power. Anyways tune with your ear, no bass boost preferably, and I generally end up putting the gain a little below half way for a 4v clean signal. About 3/5 up for 2v signal. With a dd-1 it's about the same as well pretty much this, i had my gains set with a DD-1 but i was pretty close with my ear anyways. hearing distortion if you can is easy. especially when all your friends and family have their gain maxed, bass boost maxed, and head unit maxed, you get a very keen ear for what distortion sounds like. now clipping on the other hand, mostly done by the terrible quality of music out there. Stock system at 35/45 any higher is distortion!!! Fuck I hate it in my buddies cars Scion tC SQ BuildiPad mini, lots of fabrication, daily drivenFord Explorer C Pillar Wall Build Just a cheap car to destroy with bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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