Hellbilly429 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Alright dude, phone is off tho so you know, bout to hit the sheets once this pill kicks in 2018 Honda Civic Sport Hatchback (build in progress) NVX Sound Deadener (Front Doors) Stinger FAST Rings Stock Electrical SSA Evil 6.5's Front Speakers Stock rear speakers MB Quart ONX4.80 speaker amp Rockford Fosgate T-1500bdcp DC Level 4 12" D1 @ 2-ohm Box In Design Stage Stock RadioMy Build Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakin Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm taking them right now bro gimme a lil bit You shipping in Carbon or something? Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbeljefe Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Sorry if I missed something here but can you clarify whether or not you're still planning to build this series tuned? I don't know which version of WInISD you're using but I've found the latest two to have a lot of trouble modeling complicated enclosures. Maybe it's just me though. But if you're using WinISD Beta, it doesn't model series tuned 6th orders. And... you can't simply change the model it graphs for you and expect similar results. You'll get results but they won't look anything like what you've modeled. All that said I think you mentioned that you've changed to a parallel alignment, which would be good since WInISD does well with those alignments. Why the change from one octave separation to the current? I don't doubt that you now have a considerable peak on the high end of the spectrum but, when you spread the tuning out you usually wind up with a massive dip between the tuning frequencies and I can tell you, that will not be pleasing to listen to on music. You may be good at 20 Hz and at 70 Hz but if I'm thinking correctly, you're going to have a piss poor response ~45Hz. I'm thinking something like -5bB or more... I wonder if you'd mind sharing the plot you did on WInISD? Either that or tell me exactly which woofers you're using, as the Thunder Pro 12 is a prefabbed pro audio cabinet, not a raw sub. I'd like to model it and just see where the peaks and valleys are because if you've really got a pretty flat response curve with those parameters, my mind's gonna be blown, lol. Also, if the drivers you're using have a lot of xmax, an isobaric alignment doesn't really accomplish much other than reducing the overall size of the cabinet. It will also give the amp a lot better control over the drivers but the trade off there is a reduction in overall piston diameter, which equates to less sound pressure. Honestly, with a good speaker, I don't think you'll notice much of a benefit from isobaric but... I'm just speculating. Facebook: facebook.com/audioanarchyllc Instagram: audioanarchyllc Youtube: youtube.com/bbeljefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanSierra Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm taking them right now bro gimme a lil bitYou shipping in Carbon or something? Huh? Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakin Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 You know the photographer. Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanSierra Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Sorry if I missed something here but can you clarify whether or not you're still planning to build this series tuned? I don't know which version of WInISD you're using but I've found the latest two to have a lot of trouble modeling complicated enclosures. Maybe it's just me though. But if you're using WinISD Beta, it doesn't model series tuned 6th orders. And... you can't simply change the model it graphs for you and expect similar results. You'll get results but they won't look anything like what you've modeled. All that said I think you mentioned that you've changed to a parallel alignment, which would be good since WInISD does well with those alignments. Why the change from one octave separation to the current? I don't doubt that you now have a considerable peak on the high end of the spectrum but, when you spread the tuning out you usually wind up with a massive dip between the tuning frequencies and I can tell you, that will not be pleasing to listen to on music. You may be good at 20 Hz and at 70 Hz but if I'm thinking correctly, you're going to have a piss poor response ~45Hz. I'm thinking something like -5bB or more... I wonder if you'd mind sharing the plot you did on WInISD? Either that or tell me exactly which woofers you're using, as the Thunder Pro 12 is a prefabbed pro audio cabinet, not a raw sub. I'd like to model it and just see where the peaks and valleys are because if you've really got a pretty flat response curve with those parameters, my mind's gonna be blown, lol. Also, if the drivers you're using have a lot of xmax, an isobaric alignment doesn't really accomplish much other than reducing the overall size of the cabinet. It will also give the amp a lot better control over the drivers but the trade off there is a reduction in overall piston diameter, which equates to less sound pressure. Honestly, with a good speaker, I don't think you'll notice much of a benefit from isobaric but... I'm just speculating. Great post and really helpful. I too have the same curiosity with all if this. Logic says that dip between tuning of chambers it's going to be significant when spreading them out so far. Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMZ2 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 You know the photographer.I got it lol... nice work though looking forward to the picture I hope this box works good man. I had a 6th order at one point and time and it sounded really good! My Build Log!http://www.stevemead...nissan-xterror/ Check the Youtube Channel for Updates!http://www.youtube....ser/Xterror2002And Seller Feedbackhttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/163179-bought-from-smz2/#entry2363713 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95neon_thumper82 Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 jesus h christ what a beautiful disaster lol... well now since I apparently couldn't visualize the fact that a 6 inch port and and damn 12 inch sub couldn't occupy a space of 13 by 15 together with out some retarded ness.. I'm now going with a high side volume of 2.68 cubes net. lol fuck me I got all the measuring and everything ready to cut and I said wait is that going to work? hmmmm nope lol... also realize I was measuring my low side port wrong fucking bull shit lmno oh the life... this build is making me feel foolish. but its ok I'm patient... I have no hair to pull out so a couple hit off the blunt and I'm good to go again lol... I got a few pics that will still go up here once I'm done fuckin around here jesus <img src=http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w610/beastly666bassboy/IMG_9611192581855_zps9b9b76be.jpg border=0 alt= height="75" width="800"> Growing old is necessary... growing up is an option! Have fun or you might as well fall into a 6 foot deep hole. Its much easier to be smart and act stupid then it is to be stupid and act smart! You're only limited by your imagination! Stop limiting yourself! Optima yellow top6 guage cableJVC KD S36 headunitPower acoustik 1600w 750w rms @2 ohmsTwo MTX thunder 7000 10"sSealed box @4.04 ft^3Mojo Mat in the trunk Coming soon:1/0 awg cablebig 3... in 6 gauge(till i can get the money for 0)planet audio Crossover.2- 3.5's for the front.2- 6.5's for the doors2- 6x9's for the rear3- MB Quartz amps to power it all.1- 6" aeroport...soon! <p>My Log! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakin Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Sketch up Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95neon_thumper82 Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 You know the photographer. I got my samsung s3 for a camera homie hahaha... nothing fancy here that reminds me I gotta ship some money to carbon. <img src=http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w610/beastly666bassboy/IMG_9611192581855_zps9b9b76be.jpg border=0 alt= height="75" width="800"> Growing old is necessary... growing up is an option! Have fun or you might as well fall into a 6 foot deep hole. Its much easier to be smart and act stupid then it is to be stupid and act smart! You're only limited by your imagination! Stop limiting yourself! Optima yellow top6 guage cableJVC KD S36 headunitPower acoustik 1600w 750w rms @2 ohmsTwo MTX thunder 7000 10"sSealed box @4.04 ft^3Mojo Mat in the trunk Coming soon:1/0 awg cablebig 3... in 6 gauge(till i can get the money for 0)planet audio Crossover.2- 3.5's for the front.2- 6.5's for the doors2- 6x9's for the rear3- MB Quartz amps to power it all.1- 6" aeroport...soon! <p>My Log! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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