oldsoundguy

My small build , DC M3-8 new box build Finished Pg57

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Ok I need to find a way to get the RE audio 6.5's in my kicks. They just put out such great mid and sub bass. I just don't want them in my door cause they rattle the fuck out of them.  I could run the CT sounds component set of channel 1-2 with the RE passive crossover in the door, then put the RE's by themselves on 3-4 and use the amp crossover. I would put the CT tweets in the door pillars like I have them mounted up. Then I could put the RE tweet just above the door speaker and wire the tweets together to run off the passive crossover. So 5.25 CTs in each door and two sets of tweeters. I would be giving each set 115w dynamic rms which they should be able to handle no problem and the REs in the kicks would get 190w dynamic rms each @ 2ohms which I am sure they can handle also.

They are really like mini subwoofers. I just don't know if I can give them enough space to make them sound good?? I guess I will have to do some research to see if anyone has done this yet and what kind of space they used. Crap I may have to look into getting a 80prs so I can set the LPF and HPF of the RE's and full pass the CT component set to run them passive. Damn it..... I need to quit thinking out loud.... AAAAHHHHGGG!!!    LOL

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Did some searching and found some CCF for a decent price. Its 1/8" and comes in 24"x96" so I bought two of them for 40 bucks shipped. Should be enough to do both inside and outside of the doors and maybe some left over for the rear of the cab to help with vibration of the rear panel I had to install when I put the jump seat back in.

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Love my 80PRS, jus sayin.

Cool build man.

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55 minutes ago, mcanderson0 said:

Love my 80PRS, jus sayin.

Cool build man.

I owned one a while ago but really didn't have the knowledge to use it. I think I could utilize its features now though. Should of never sold it. Oh well

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Yeah I installed a passive set of components after installing my 80PRS. Huge facepalm when I read into the active xover capability of the unit.  Have since acquired a tweeter amp and am now running active.  So much adjustability that I couldnt get with my passive setup.  I'll be the devil on your shoulder saying "yeah yeah, go active".  The tweeter control is niccce.

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Nice HU's! Would love the PRS-99 and run 4-way active... that would be the shit. I would learn how to tune it right!

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15 hours ago, bcbrassard said:

Nice HU's! Would love the PRS-99 and run 4-way active... that would be the shit. I would learn how to tune it right!

I dont think I could set up a 99, way too many settings. Lol

So when I got home last night I played with the setting in the amp a little. I turned the punch eq on all channels to 0 , then I reset the front and rear channels to 0db of course all settings on the deck flat, then I set the sub at -10db. I noticed that the gain could go up higher with it set that way. 

Why could I turn up the gain so much? Am I getting more power to the sub with a cleaner signal? I usually set it to 0db and the I turned up the punch eq to boost the signal then using the sub crossover on the deck its set to 80hz then I set it to +6 then use the bass knob to adjust. Am I getting a cleaner stronger signal using -10 db without boosting it with the punch eq or the setting in the deck set to 0? 

Not sure if that all makes sense. 

 

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Well I played with the amp on the way home. I left the cover off so I could reach back and mess with the Punch eq and the gains. So what the fuck is the difference in setting the gain to -10db  with no punch eq and sub level at 0 or setting it to 0db and turning up the punch eq on the amp which seems to do exactly the same as turning up the gain and setting the sub level to +6 , or setting it to 0db and turning the punch eq all the way off but then turning up the sub level  adjustment on the deck up to +6? Every scenario seems to have the same type of effect which is clipping at full volume so you need to use the bass knob to adjust to the song.  So what I did with the gain is set it with 0db, turned off the punch eq, turned the sub level adjustment on the HU up to +6 and adjust the bass to the song with the bass knob. On some music I can turn the bass knob all the way up then some I cant, so I think that is the best scenario to use?

 I wonder which setting would give the cleanest sound?

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without a scope it's not really possible to say which one will be the cleanest. I personally would rather do the sub-level at 0, no punch eq, and gain set at -10dB overlap with the DD-1..... cause that's exactly how I have mine now :)

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Tough one. It gets confusing but as far as i understand the process start off with the way the DD-1 instructs how to do it. Then make minor adjustment using the HU EQ. Music is record in so many diverse method's that makes tuning a system difficult. If i tune my 80-PRS & amps perfectly to test tone and then play music there will be a variance in levels and clarity that can introduce distortion into your system. So my 80-PRS HU is clean up to 60/60, tune all amp according and when i play music i know, i can hear, feel that my system is distorting at 56/60 so it must be the music because i know i am clean up to 60, unless i have boosted something, or + up on the levels. Flat with everything to 0 is how i understand it.  Then you find out what your systems strength's and weakness's are. I suck at tuning though, its my biggest weakness that i am trying to over come. Lack of patients to tune and fix fuck ups.

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Thanks for the response. I sent Rockford Fosgate an email to ask them what exactly the punch eq on the amp does.

I agree tuning sucks just because there are so many variables in the music I download. Some are loud and hit hard and some are not so it takes some adjusting. Most of the time I have the front stage crossed at 100hz but some songs can drop as low as 63hz and still sound good and some it just distorts so I have to go back up to 100hz. So I just keep it crossed at 100hz. The sub I just keep it crossed at 80hz and set the sub level to +6 so I can turn the bass knob up for the songs that need it and down for the ones that don't. I guess if all music was created equal it would be easy.

So just trying to find out what would work the best with all the adjustments available from the amp to the HU. I could just max everything out and just use the bass knob to control it all but I am not sure what the punch eq , the sub level and setting the gains with a 0db - -15db really does to the clarity of the music. So I guess that's the real question. Does the sub level on the HU act as a gain by giving it more power just like turning up the gain? Does the punch eq do the same as the sub level? Fuck

If that's the case I should just set the sub gain at -15db @40 hz and set everything else to 0 and leave it at that.

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2 hours ago, oldsoundguy said:

Thanks for the response. I sent Rockford Fosgate an email to ask them what exactly the punch eq on the amp does.

I agree tuning sucks just because there are so many variables in the music I download. Some are loud and hit hard and some are not so it takes some adjusting. Most of the time I have the front stage crossed at 100hz but some songs can drop as low as 63hz and still sound good and some it just distorts so I have to go back up to 100hz. So I just keep it crossed at 100hz. The sub I just keep it crossed at 80hz and set the sub level to +6 so I can turn the bass knob up for the songs that need it and down for the ones that don't. I guess if all music was created equal it would be easy.

So just trying to find out what would work the best with all the adjustments available from the amp to the HU. I could just max everything out and just use the bass knob to control it all but I am not sure what the punch eq , the sub level and setting the gains with a 0db - -15db really does to the clarity of the music. So I guess that's the real question. Does the sub level on the HU act as a gain by giving it more power just like turning up the gain? Does the punch eq do the same as the sub level? Fuck

If that's the case I should just set the sub gain at -15db @40 hz and set everything else to 0 and leave it at that.

This^^  Every type of music I listen to I am constantly messing with settings because it seems like there is no set it and forget it for all the music out there.......sigh, it's never ending brother

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