best sundown subs to play loud rather than low

[Rudemaxxx]

Get a proper box

I had no problems getting the pair of my buddies old SA-12s doing being rather loud from the trunk of my Cadillac in a 4th order bandpass ported thru the rear deck.

Of coarse I was raping them with a Sundown SAZ-4500.....

But they get loud regardless if you know what your doing with them.

Stock alt, 2 batteries voltage drop to only 12.2ish at idle with a 5,000 watt amp.. and doing it with CCA wire!

Damn dude. Wanna do my car? xP

[kirill007]

Get a proper box

I had no problems getting the pair of my buddies old SA-12s doing being rather loud from the trunk of my Cadillac in a 4th order bandpass ported thru the rear deck.

Of course I was raping them with a Sundown SAZ-4500.....

But they get loud regardless if you know what your doing with them.

Stock alt, 2 batteries voltage drop to only 12.2ish at idle with a 5,000 watt amp.. and doing it with CCA wire!

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Offcourse you have so little voltage drop, if you actually look at how much power the amp will actually make after taking the impedance curve (+ 50% duty cycle on music) into consideration and the amount of resistance the CCA wire gives you. Without measuring you don't know how much current the amp is using.

As you probably already know, he can't have a frequency bandwidth starting at 35Hz reaching all the way up to 100-120Hz(just guessing haven't modeled those drivers yet ) and be loud at the same time without a lot of power behind them.

The OP should make ported enclosures for those PA woofers, that'll get him where he wants to be.

[kl0wn]

SA's do get loud, try a different box design out.

[Hansom Raj Sarwan]

okay alot of people here is saying box design is my problems

i had them in a separated boxes

each box is 2.0cuft after port and sub displacement tuned to 32hz

as for amps. i have a orion 1200D for bass. and orion 8002 for my 10" midbass drivers and a 4 channel soundstream amplifier for the drivers

processing done in 3 way network mode on my pioneer 80prs deck

someone said problems with my mid speakers..trust me those rcf speakers are extremely loud. car audio speaker wouldnt sound as loud

in my country we use alot of pro audio for our mids such as rcf.. bnc.. bemya.. faital pro..etc because we can play music extremely loud anywhere

current wise have a 140amp alt with 2 powersafe 92AH batteries and a stock battery upfront with the big 3 done

anyone willing to design a box to play very loud but yet get lows from it ?

btw the t3 audio was in a masive box. approx 2.75cuft after port and sub displacement tuned to 38hz

[bigbodylexus]

If the SA-12's aren't enough, then go with the Zv3's. How loud are you trying to be?

[P4killer_]

Two sep boxes??? Is it a chambered box? If its literally two sep boxes and each like in its own lil area.. f that silliness.

Build a 2 12 standard shares air box with like a 6 inch aero and be done with it. Sa's are honestly some well designed nasty little mofos... before they got to be $200 fing bux they were one of the best bang for buck subs out there.

They gey plenty loud. Either you are giving em like 400w each or the design isnt ideal.

[Miguels]

the only way you are going to get loud is getting more power. the pro audio get really loud and go over the bass making it sound like the bass is not loud.

[Hansom Raj Sarwan]

anyone willing to design a box for what im looking for?

[ncochran]

in my build log there should be a box for 2 sa 12s. It sounded solid. My 4th is also in there, it is awesome sounding (for 2 12s and low power)

[kirill007]

someone said problems with my mid speakers..trust me those rcf speakers are extremely loud. car audio speaker wouldnt sound as loud

in my country we use alot of pro audio for our mids such as rcf.. bnc.. bemya.. faital pro..etc because we can play music extremely loud anywhere

Separate boxes arent good, put them in a shared airspace box with enough port area, which is more then 30sq inches per subwoofer.

The mids are useless for midbass unless you have them in a ported enclosure in your doors.

Because the midrange is so overpowering youll need a lot of midbass to balance it out, which isn't possible without porting the pro audio speakers. They are designed to work in ported enclosures.

You havent specified any equipment you have and didnt list your goals, nor posted pictures of what you have. It's harding understanding what you need.

You have the speakers mounted outside the car? Does that mean you want the same with the bass? So loud outside the vehicle, it's not for your own incar sound experience?

Also answering questions that have been asked will help you out too.