Keith77 Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Bad ass. Love those amps Want to do mine next LOL Thats cool. Im way too old to be upset by shit like that. Your name is winston. Your own parents hated you even before you were born. My penis is bigger than your penis I'm far from loud and my roof/headliner flaps around like Adam's ass on a windy day. I think it depends more on the structure of the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplehaze Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 That is awesome work as usual!Hey this reminds me, I recently picked up an old punch 200DSM, wanted to see about sending your way for some treatment? Or at least getting some direction when doing it myself? Pretty sure it's the exact same as the one you did. Kickin' Cruiser Seller Feedback Stage 3 Dash, Door Panels,4th Order wall 4 - 15'son a DC 5.0K 2 DC 5.0K'sSolo X 15 (v.2) Sub Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicks Posted June 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Bad ass. Love those amps Want to do mine next LOL Me too! Brings back some memories. MAN...I wanted one back in the day. Its fun having a few of them now Your A200? Hmmm, It'd have a lot less parts to do then this one... That is awesome work as usual! Hey this reminds me, I recently picked up an old punch 200DSM, wanted to see about sending your way for some treatment? Or at least getting some direction when doing it myself? Pretty sure it's the exact same as the one you did. Thanks Dude! Just saw your Fosgate sub that you redid, awesome as well! Mmmmmmmmm, I love those 200DSM's. I've already done mine so doing the same to a second would be easy. Either way, sure I can help. If you want to do it, I'm sure I can throw together a parts list of just what you need. This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey_Dog650 Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 This is awesome. Si jelly of the skills involved here 13 Kia Forte Build! 07 Hyundai Accent Build ***Super Seller*** N8ball2013 And then he gets to say ok all you guys were right. im sorry for being a dummy poo poo head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCA Rusty Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Here are the "plugs" that PPI used to allow for easier install and removal. Notice how dirty the connection posts are. That will need some cleaning. Pulling the electrolytic capacitors Tested the capacitors on an LCR meter to look at their condition. Still in spec and not too bad. These are the 12V input caps which smooth the B+ voltage coming into the amp. Notice PPI used 50V caps. Over rating the caps is a good idea but overrating them by 35V is excessive. I can replace them with 25V caps which will allow me to increase the amount of capacitance at the input Here are the power rail caps. Interestingly PPI used the same value of cap for this part of the circuit. I would guess that both are compatible in each circuit and by using the same cap, PPI would be purchasing more of the same part which would lower their costs. Here is my replacement for the 12V caps. I chose Panasonic 2700uF 25V caps. Still plenty of voltage rating (2x) with an increase in capacitance of 2.7x and a reduction of ESR (Equivalent Series Resistance) by 1/3. My selection for the power rail caps. Panasonic 1000uF 50V caps. Same value as before but you can see that the new caps do have more capacitance (987uF vs 826uF), a better Dissipation Factor and a much better ESR. A lower ESR will cause less internal heating to the cap and better release of current. Also a longer life due to less heating. Ready for FET removal. Best way to remove the output transistors...just clip them off. All outside FETs/transistors removed That was a popular amp back then, I cant even guess at how many i installed DC AUDIO Phone Number 1(855)SPL-DBZZ Built by Competitors, for Competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicks Posted June 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Here are the "plugs" that PPI used to allow for easier install and removal. Notice how dirty the connection posts are. That will need some cleaning. Pulling the electrolytic capacitors Tested the capacitors on an LCR meter to look at their condition. Still in spec and not too bad. These are the 12V input caps which smooth the B+ voltage coming into the amp. Notice PPI used 50V caps. Over rating the caps is a good idea but overrating them by 35V is excessive. I can replace them with 25V caps which will allow me to increase the amount of capacitance at the input Here are the power rail caps. Interestingly PPI used the same value of cap for this part of the circuit. I would guess that both are compatible in each circuit and by using the same cap, PPI would be purchasing more of the same part which would lower their costs. Here is my replacement for the 12V caps. I chose Panasonic 2700uF 25V caps. Still plenty of voltage rating (2x) with an increase in capacitance of 2.7x and a reduction of ESR (Equivalent Series Resistance) by 1/3. My selection for the power rail caps. Panasonic 1000uF 50V caps. Same value as before but you can see that the new caps do have more capacitance (987uF vs 826uF), a better Dissipation Factor and a much better ESR. A lower ESR will cause less internal heating to the cap and better release of current. Also a longer life due to less heating. Ready for FET removal. Best way to remove the output transistors...just clip them off. All outside FETs/transistors removed That was a popular amp back then, I cant even guess at how many i installed Hey Rusty! Yep, I LOVE these amps back in the day. Some of the best looking amps ever. Stay tuned. I may have some more show up in my build... This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonolith2001 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Wow. Great job man. I am seriously impressed by both the amp and your work. Want to do a sequel thread with the next PPI amp series with my PC21400 and PC2300 chrome editions? I am thinking of having this done because I don't trust myself enough to work on an amp that nice and it seems like a good idea. I would pay you obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicks Posted June 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Wow. Great job man. I am seriously impressed by both the amp and your work. Want to do a sequel thread with the next PPI amp series with my PC21400 and PC2300 chrome editions? I am thinking of having this done because I don't trust myself enough to work on an amp that nice and it seems like a good idea. I would pay you obviously. Thanks Man. Hmm I've never worked on the PC series... They're older but not that old. Do they still work? Why do you want to refurb them! Just to refresh them? This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonolith2001 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Yeah they both work great. The 2300 had the box, paperwork, and everything! I Just wanted to get them refreshed. Then like you found there are newer opamps and such you can use to make it better! I think the opamps you used are the same ones I put in my PC's soundcard actually. EDIT: These pics aren't mine but this is whats inside. That fan should probably even be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisdyefab Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Wow very that was an Amazingly Thorough step by step. What would u charge to fix an amp of mine? looks like a couple mosfets need replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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