Jessica Posted July 15, 2014 Report Posted July 15, 2014 My sides are hurting from laughing so hard Rest in peace, walled 87 accord build log 03' Corolla build with AA Mayhem inside. My super random youtube channel and terrible camera work. Wiring comparison by CaptainzPlanetz Wire and fuse guide by Guest SyKo13
Souldrop Posted July 15, 2014 Report Posted July 15, 2014 I would say it ground itself through the amp. The remote wire isn't grounded at the remote turn on terminal else would ground out the remote turn on circuit of the HU and no amps would work. Thats my point. Positive to negative... obviously thru a circuit. Now lets put it in another perspective, your car radio can turn on and off regardless if the remote wire is connected to the amp. An amp without a remote wire from the head unit will not turn on.... if you wire the positive and negative on the amp, the amp wont turn on but it still has power at the amp from the battery. In order for that amp to turn on, the signal from the remote sends power to the internal relay... relays it grounds itself out when power is sent to it... therefore making it a Positive to negative connection Yeah you have to have a + to - connection somewhere else you wouldn't have a circuit ergo no current would flow. The issue is you're not running the 2nd 3rd 4th...amps off the the remote on. The remote on grounds itself through the relay which is ground to the common ground. Its the same for every amplifier. Try drawing the circuit yourself and see if it makes more sense. you could even substitute for this argument the diagram I drew. The relays are then in parallel. They have a common postive (the remote turn on) and a common ground, the amps ground to chassis. 1997 Lexus ES300 HU - Pioneer MVH 7350 Processor - Helix DSP Front Stage - JBL P660C Mid/high amp - Alpine PDX-F4 Subs - 1 IA Death Penalty 12 Sub Amp - Cactus Sounds PF300.1
Wood Posted July 15, 2014 Report Posted July 15, 2014 they do share a common ground though. The chasis... as far as the radio and amp is concerned, but what I'm saying is there isn't a positive and negative run for a remote wire, just positive... the remote signal from the headunit grounds itself out at the amp so my amps are wired in series to my battery up front? I only have a positive run from my battery. no because the chassis is the common ground... but you talking about the radio sending a hot signal to an amp while its powered.... it doesn't send a signal when the radio is off....your battery and amp always have power even while the car is off hence how you can create a spark if you touch metal to barewire contact... when your car is off that remote wire isn't holding current, its completely off, so your headunit is the Positive while its powered, that power is ran to a relay inside the amp that grounds itself out to tell the amp to turn on. 2011 Nissan Altima aka Red Ruby HEADUNIT: Pioneer AVH X2700BS ELECTRICAL: -Singer 230a -Northstar gr34 -(2) Northstar SMS220 w/ Custom Terminals from 12V Metalworkz -100% Welding Cable FRONT STAGE:-(2 Sets) Hertz HSK165 -Hertz HSK130 -Ampere Audio 125.4 SUB STAGE: -(3) Sundown Audio SA REV2 12's -Ampere Audio 3800.1 V2 MISC (NON AUDIO RELATED): -Interior & Exterior Lights LED -Gloss Black Roof (PAINTED) -15% Front, 5% Rear Tint -Roof Spoiler -20" TSW Snettertons (20x8.5 front, 20x10 rear) -Custom Projector Retrofit (FX-R 3.0, 6.5k HID, Morimoto Mini H1 (faux projector), Quad Starry Night Halos) ----- COMING SOON!! -Aftermarket Fog Lights -Custom Painted Engine Covers My Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/169869-woods-2011-altima-aka-red-ruby-new-video-more-updates/page-109 Retrofit Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/185787-hid-projector-retrofitting-diy-by-wood/#entry2765346
MrSkippyJ Posted July 15, 2014 Report Posted July 15, 2014 But a series connection alters voltage, how do the amps turn on if the voltage isn't 12v? F150: Stock 2019 Harley Road Glide: Amp: TM400Xad - 4 channel 400 watt Processor: DSR1 Fairing (Front) 6.5s -MMats PA601cx Lid (Rear) 6x9s - TMS69
Souldrop Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 Now you're talking more about the circuits within a circuit. I think the only people the movie Inception made sense to were EE's You do not have a simple DC circuit. You can't think of it like that; you've got a lot more going on. ven with 2 amps and an HU relay you get a multitude of different circuits in circuits in circuits ....You don't believe us then draw out a somewhat simplified diagram of a couple amps with simple relays in each amp.Treat the HU as a relay and each amp as a relay and have 12V DC source and common chassis ground. Follow the voltage or the current (both if you want to mentally masturbate) and you will see. 1997 Lexus ES300 HU - Pioneer MVH 7350 Processor - Helix DSP Front Stage - JBL P660C Mid/high amp - Alpine PDX-F4 Subs - 1 IA Death Penalty 12 Sub Amp - Cactus Sounds PF300.1
Wood Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 Now you're talking more about the circuits within a circuit. I think the only people the movie Inception made sense to were EE's You do not have a simple DC circuit. You can't think of it like that; you've got a lot more going on. ven with 2 amps and an HU relay you get a multitude of different circuits in circuits in circuits ....You don't believe us then draw out a somewhat simplified diagram of a couple amps with simple relays in each amp.Treat the HU as a relay and each amp as a relay and have 12V DC source and common chassis ground. Follow the voltage or the current (both if you want to mentally masturbate) and you will see. AHHHH! I got you..... had a moment...! You guys who said parallel are right!! The circuit within the hu grounds itself at the chassis thus making that board a common ground since the remote is connected to that same board... My bad fellas carry on..... lol I'm human 2011 Nissan Altima aka Red Ruby HEADUNIT: Pioneer AVH X2700BS ELECTRICAL: -Singer 230a -Northstar gr34 -(2) Northstar SMS220 w/ Custom Terminals from 12V Metalworkz -100% Welding Cable FRONT STAGE:-(2 Sets) Hertz HSK165 -Hertz HSK130 -Ampere Audio 125.4 SUB STAGE: -(3) Sundown Audio SA REV2 12's -Ampere Audio 3800.1 V2 MISC (NON AUDIO RELATED): -Interior & Exterior Lights LED -Gloss Black Roof (PAINTED) -15% Front, 5% Rear Tint -Roof Spoiler -20" TSW Snettertons (20x8.5 front, 20x10 rear) -Custom Projector Retrofit (FX-R 3.0, 6.5k HID, Morimoto Mini H1 (faux projector), Quad Starry Night Halos) ----- COMING SOON!! -Aftermarket Fog Lights -Custom Painted Engine Covers My Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/169869-woods-2011-altima-aka-red-ruby-new-video-more-updates/page-109 Retrofit Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/185787-hid-projector-retrofitting-diy-by-wood/#entry2765346
MrSkippyJ Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 F150: Stock 2019 Harley Road Glide: Amp: TM400Xad - 4 channel 400 watt Processor: DSR1 Fairing (Front) 6.5s -MMats PA601cx Lid (Rear) 6x9s - TMS69
mrd6 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 Lololol come on guys, its parallel... I think this thread was the most painful thing I've tried to read through in a long time. My Build Log: http://www.stevemead...-sundown-power/ Team NorthWestSPL
MrSkippyJ Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 felt like adult conversation to me. i wasn't sure it was parallel but it seemed like it to me. I learned a couple of things about how remote turn ons in an amp works. F150: Stock 2019 Harley Road Glide: Amp: TM400Xad - 4 channel 400 watt Processor: DSR1 Fairing (Front) 6.5s -MMats PA601cx Lid (Rear) 6x9s - TMS69
Kyblack76 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 cool.... now.. SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold
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